I think I must have watched it 7 years ago when I was 12 but never cared to watch it properly.

But now I'm 18 and a bigger TF fan than I was then...

Oh my God, it was BRILLIANT!

Yes, it may have been cring-worthy in some areas but I loved the action and how brutal it was. Also, watching this after my years of TF media made squeel when I saw where some of the inspiration for some modern things came from such as Jazz in the 2007 movie copying what Kup did to Blitzwing or whent he Dinobots collapsed the door onto the bad guys like they will in the game not to mention how the new Retro Pack trailer was a homeage to it.

I really, really liked it. Sure I don't think it's as good as Dark of the Moon which is mnow my favourite action movie ever but I can imagine watching this in the 80s and loving this to death. It holds up well now and I would say it's timeless.

Plus you got to love Japanese animation!

 

You think DOTM > TFTM 1986 ?








Really !?

 

I think TF3 was a reallyy good action movie. If anything I'd say TF'86 is on par with TF1 and TF2 - both films I love but TF'86 is pure gold. Yet DotM holds a place in my top 5.

 

I don't think it was animated in Japan.

 

The original TF the movie loses major points for forcing the stupid season 3 cast on us.

Bayformers might have him ripping faces and playing second fiddle to Shia Lebouf, but at least Optimus is the rightful TF star and Megatron the rightful villain. As they should be.

 

Sure. If your definition of a rightful villain is the main bad guy in the first movie getting handled like a bitch the other two, then yeah.

 

I certainly do. Strip the 86 movie of the opening battle sequence and all you have is rose-colored clusterfuckedness.

 

I didn't say it was, I said it had Japanese animation. it could have been done in the US. Nonetheless, I know Japanese animation when I see it; you can tell from the colour palette to the use of tone and so on.

 

both are correct..it wasnt animated in japan...it is however japanese animation..i could be wrong about it not being animated in japan or at least some parts..i seem to recall certain parts may have been done in japan..

 

Wasn't the 1986 movie animated by Toei? A japanese studio. Also did most of the G1 cartoon episodes.

 

yes it did, toei animated all of season 1 and 39 episodes of season 2 and also animated the movie

i want to say they also did some of season 3 as well, but not as much

toei also animated all of the japanese exclusive g1 series

 

G1 is no more Japanese animation than 80's GI Joe, Thundercats, and He Man.

All of that stuff is animated overseas, but western people are in charge directing the whole thing in a western way with a western style. Put American G1 next to Victory and the difference is obvious.

Anyway, TFTM is the greatest thing ever because of two words: Vince Dicola.

 

Good thing the opening battle is in the movie! It puts me right in the mood for some rose-colored clusterfuckdness.

Let me try this game:
Strip Commando of Arnold and all you have is (adjective and noun for bad thing).
Strip The Matrix of the ground breaking visual direction and all you have is (adjective and noun for bad thing).
Strip UHF of Weird Al and all you have is (adjective and noun for bad thing).

It's all true!

 

I saw the movie on the first day as a kid and was a bit traumatized, not horribly so but compared to the preceding G1 episodes and animation as a whole it was very trippy and killed off numerous well-loved characters. It was bold, loud with an over-the-top 80's rock/heavy metal soundtrack and took the franchise from very g-rated saturday morning stuff to almost a mature escapist film. For a kid in elementary school it was a bit too much and I didn't rewatch it for a few years, now I love almost every aspect of it.
Floro Dery did much of the designs and created the intricate look of the movie but it's obvious to me that a lot of Sunbow/Toei's Japanese animators gave it an Anime vibe and compared to everything else being produced in that era, it's pretty groundbreaking gorgeous animation for being pre-Akira, which is regarded as setting the benchmarch in Cel Animation.

 

Big TF fan. Not so much of a math fan, eh?  

 

I see what you're getting at, but theres one crucial difference between TFTM and your example. TFTM's saving grace has a definite endpoint and it's way short of the halfway point of the film, maybe even the 1/3 mark. Your examples have their saving grace throughout the whole movie.

 

Nothin' wrong with that at all.

 

I can understand that viewpoint, but I think the high points of the '86 movie extend beyond that scene. Megatron turning to Galvatron, Starscream's death, and the "birth" of Rodimus Prime at end.

But, I'll definitely agree that a good portion in the middle is uhhh..."not-so-spectacular", shall we say...


EDIT:

Well...now that I've read that, lol ^^^ we pretty-much agree!

I guess I just really do wear my rose-colored glasses more. I don't mean that in a snarky way - I'm being honest. I love the 86 movie, despite ALL it's shortcomings. That movie was a huge part of my childhood.

 

I agree. I think everyone is entitled to their own opinions. but then again, I remember that this is the internet.