Snyder's Justice League

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  1. MatrixOfWumbo

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    That's one of the coolest lines from him.

    "That is who I am."

    But the other three coolest times he and Superman threw down (in the finale of this show, the finale of Justice League, and the Apocalypse movie) were straight up fist fights.
     
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    Yea, I'm aware of that, and I thought it was lame there too. I like the fights, they are great fights. Just think they'd be better off being anybody but Darkseid.

    And, if Jack Kirby did it too, I'd still say it's lame there too. He's the head villain, he doesn't need an equal.
     
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    There’s something very uncanny about his face. Like the expression is as if they took Grumpy Cat and put it over a human skull. It’s.....strange and off putting.
     
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    Superman actually explains it pretty well in that finale fight, he was holding back every time he fought darkseid. He flat out says it.
     
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    Yes, I'm aware of that. Still doesn't help.
     
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    Punch-outs happen because it's visceral and emotional. Even if it doesn't make any tactical sense, a 1:1 grappling match shows a direct clash between opposing forces, and it puts the characters in a position to banter with each other at the same time.
     
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    And it’s easy to make exciting
     
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    The debate on how to adapt comic-book designs to live-action is an eternal one. X-Men switched black uniforms and civilian gear for the majority of their films, the MCU features mostly super armor, Snyder's Superman had an alien undersuit that removed the red trunks, Green Lantern's energy suit, and so on.

    Or we can just blame everything on the DC's ongoing New 52 since this is where the reinvented designs/concepts came from, though that'd be too easy.
     
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    Meh, it's not going to be as good as the "real" Darkseid until he invades a house to sit on a random couch chilling until the owners arrive.
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    Batman looks like a really cheap action figure, with no paint, and zero articulation. Like, he's just a lump of molded plastic. Like he's a Mcd's toy. Except, he's not. He's a billion dollar toy. Not even a statue. A really expensive cheapily made toy.

    God damn, I 'love' these movies. Hilarious, Zack, Hilarious. This was your best attempt at Super Heroes, wasn't it? :lol 
     
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    Still too much color, Zacky Boy. Until it's just voices coming out of a pretentious black void, no one will ever really know just HOW serious your super serious Justice League of seriously serious really is. Seriously.
     
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    He made a hulking Batman that kicked ass, how is that not respecting him?
     
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    i mean his batman was frank miller's dkr batman which helped lay the groundwork for the batman we know today...so yea. i agree

    his batman has felt the most like batman since tim burton's batman
     
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    For starters, Snyder's Batman is kind of a moron. He's the last one to find out about Superman's identity; something that was incredibly easy for other characters to figure out. Instead, he awkwardly stands on top of a building waiting for Lex Luthor (who he is unaware of) to tell Superman to go to him. Had Luthor not done that, Batman would have spent the entire night there looking like an idiot. Batman also makes his job of murdering Superman a lot harder on himself. In the batmobile scene, Batman places a tracker on the truck transporting the kryptonite. Does Batman wait to find out where it is going and make his move then? No. He goes on a murderous rampage and destroys an entire dockyard. This commotion alerts Superman and his whole mission fails. This scene is even dumber when you realize that Gotham and Metropolis, the city that Superman resides in are only separated by a bridge. The world's greatest detective this Batman isn't.

    Batman is also kind of a mass-murderer in the movie. He excessively kills more than a dozen people for transporting the kryptonite. One of those people was just a innocent truck driver that Batman forces another car to ram into. Batman also doesn't seem too bothered that the brandings he leaves on his victims are a dog-whistle to get murdered in prison. All of this is especially bad when the movie is about addressing collateral damage and accountability. The now infamous "Martha" scene was supposed to be signifier for Batman's character arc. He sees the humanity in Superman and refuses to kill him. After that scene however, Batman kills a bunch of other henchmen. One of which involves Batman slamming a crate into a person's face, producing a bloody smear on the wall. Snyder can have Batman say that "Men Are Still Good" speech, but it isn't convincing. Is Batman going to face consequences for his actions?

    Ben Affleck gave a solid performance as Batman, but his depiction wasn't conducive towards having a traditional Batman. This would have been fine if this was a one-off. However, this was supposed to be the springboard for DC's equivalent of the MCU.
     
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    This is a Darkseid who never shuts up about his workout routine.
     
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