Sins of the Wreckers (3 of 5) Discussion

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  1. ZeroBG82

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    That was what Tarantulas described during his conversation with Prowl, about being able to take on bio-disguises of a sort already. Tarantulas has just upgraded the process substantially, including adding the new elements like being undetectable as Cybertronian.

    Basically, Tarantulas took the process that the Dinobots used to create themselves as dinosaurs, and used it to invent Beast Era transformer tech (now with 100% more mass shifting!).
     
  2. Reask

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    Does that mean that while Tarantulas can transform into a large spider, he can also transform into a regular tiny Tarantula? You know, tiny by their standards, slightly small by ours.
     
  3. ZeroBG82

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    Probably, though we're not shown such here. But Tarantulas explicitly mentions the mass shifting capabilities during his talk with Prowl (leading Prowl to speculate that Tarantulas could have created a TF with a human bio-mode), and we've seen it in use at least once, and maybe twice: Stampy, who shrinks considerably in his bio-mode, as seen in issue 2, and possibly Tidal Wave, who appeared to shrink into his whale mode in this issue, though that may have just been perspective playing havoc with the artwork.
     
  4. Escargon

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    Another little aspect he seems to have improved upon is actually covering the full body-Swoops beast mode, for example, never could tuck in his little robot mode bits in his beast mode chest.
     
  5. Verno

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    Was there speculation Verity was pregnant? Could Tarantulas have experimented on her and is creating some kind of hybrid?
     
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    That sounds really, really dumb. Like out of a bad sci-fi B-movie. It's getting more and more obvious she has some sort of terminal illness, not that she's pregnant ("I think this might be it" would make no sense in the latter case, as she looks nowhere near close to giving birth)

    Tarantulas only became interested in Verity when Hubcap picked up her message to Prowl saying she had the Aequitas data. He said this at the start of the issue. If he had any prior contact with her, he would have taken the data then.
     
  7. Reask

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    That's like saying Bombshell captured and tortured Hunter... oh. Well, Nick wouldn't write something as stupid as that.
     
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    Haha, I was only musing. Maybe that's a little too 'mad scientist' for this version of Tarantulas.
     
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    Honestly this characterization is such a breather.

    Tarantulas is a lot more complex than I expected. Still messed up, but also genuinely hurt - and perhaps deluded - by the events of the past. Carnivac's little scene with Stakeout was also great. Nick is honestly pretty good at depicting clear Antagonists in vulnerable moments. That goes for Prowl as well. While the majority of the comic is from his perspective, it's clear that despite everything he does feel remorse for his past actions when there was a clear lack of benefit compared to the sacrifice taking place. Compare the death(?) of Ostaros to the manipulation of Kup. On one hand Prowl fully recognizes how pointless and unfair the "death" was compared to what he sees as the full necessity of using Kup as a puppet.

    Also Leobreaker? Did not expect him.

    I love Tidal Wave's banter. Honestly this is my favourite comic right now, and I'll be looking forward to where things go.
     
  10. Dek

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    It was definitely Impactor who through Tarantulas into the noise maze. Notice how they never show his right hand in the flashback? And I agree with the prediction I starks is Springer. He's even colored a light green.
     
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    I think this series should be named "Sins of the Prowl" not "Sins of the Wreckers" :) 
     
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    It kind of looks like Prowl killed ostaros.
     
  13. PredaconElder

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    Chronologically that doesn't seem possible.
     
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    Which panel showed him pulling the trigger, again?
     
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    You know... if it WAS Impactor who took out Mesothulas' lab, that just adds to the "Springer = Ostaros" even more.

    Prowl would have been more likely to kill him than Impactor.

    And so Prowl is covering for him when he talks to Tarantulas there.
     
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    Man I love this series, I have no idea why Roche doesn't get to write his own book. The art is fantastic but I think I value the story telling more. Was it you ZeroBG82 who originally called it being Impactor who tossed Ol' Tarantulas in the noise maze? Cause that is brilliant. The Springer theory even makes sense because in zero point Springer and the Matrix were mentioned quite a bit. While I think your theory is very probable I thought springer already existed before the war broke out. Ostaros shoulders look so damn familiar to me I feel like I've seen them before somewhere in MTMTE. If Ostaros is already dead I'd be okay with it but for some reason when I was first reading it Fortmax jumped out to me as a candidate, maybe cause lil Ozzy and Max are war born? Also can some one figure out who's admissions fit who at the end? Most are simple like Springer wishing he'd gone to get Kup, but what did he do later, maybe something we aren't privy to yet? Arcee was about killing Jiaxus, running with Prowl and maybe squishing humans I think. Roadbuster is the spark eater, and maybe the killing them when they slept and the undeserving bit as well, did he kill his cadets he mentioned in issue #1? I am enjoying this book so much thanks Nick.
     
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    Also when Roadbuster commented that he was surprised Impactor didn't rip down his headstone and Impactor mentioned Prowl remembering further back than most maybe it was a kind of a unspoken thing that Prowl let him he keep his Wrecker plot for the tarantulas deal, or maybe he knew what was buried in the grave. And by the way I love the characterization of Trantulas I genuinely feel bad for dude. He reminds me of an ex all hurt, desperate and unable to move on. Poor Steakout :(  I hope Verity gets the chance to say goodbye. Speaking of Verity is any one else a little scared that there is a teeny tiny micro cybertronian on some mass shifting biz doing cartwheels in he belly or dancing around making her all sick or giving her radiation poisoning?
     
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    On the Impactor theory, was about to say that the never seeing the right hand was probably just a coincidence when I noticed that in the panel of the lab's wall being smashed open, the hand isn't just off panel, but is conspicuously covered by a piece of flying ruble. I think you're on to something.
     
  19. Dead Metal

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    Great series, love the Beast Wars stuff.

    As for who Ostaroz, I have two theories:
    Springer, makes the most sense story wise, we're told in this series again that Prowl and Springer don't see eye to eye and that they're polar opposites. Yet Prowl trusts Springer over everyone else.
    Maybe it's because he knows were he comes from and his hatred for him comes from the guilt he feels?

    Agent 113. This makes less sense, but could work since Agent 113 was just recently brought back up in MTMTE. After all Agent 113 was Prowl's agent, and he's been outed as being the old dead Vos, which means Prowl wasn't lying when he said he fell in battle.

    Maybe we're all wrong and Ostarios turns out to be idw's Optimus Primal.

    As for why those shoulders look familiar, they're Roche's standard naked Transformers shoulders, essentially the endoskeleton ones, Overlord had the wxact same ones when he was burned to the "bone".
     
  20. General Tekno

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    Definitely not Rung. Rung predates the war by millions of years.