should Deviations get an ongoing series?

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  1. supernova222

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    i know it was meant to be a one shot "what if" story, and many had plenty of criticisms about it, mainly how it wasnt very original and followed the same basic plot. i admit that while these things are true, it might be support the plot better if it was continued so we could see how these altered events played out in this new alternate timeline. if the cons fled to chaar or remained on cybertron and how conflicts with the quintessons would occur with optimus leading the autobots against them. i think it would be a nice throw back to the g1 cartoon, and a new spin/story to see explored. what are your thoughts or opinions on this idea. what would you like to see develop in the series?

    for me, in addition to the above suggestions, i would like to see...
    • searching for the now lost matrix
    • rodimus having survived and becomes optimus' protege
    • megascream as decepticon leader(and combiner)
    • optimus searching for elita-one
    • kranix searching for survivors of lithone
    • unicrons remaining a threat(in the comic the matrix was opened on his exterior, rather than within him, so he may not have been as damaged as in the film)
    • blitzwings' being less hesitant about going rogue
    • possibility of megatron too returning as a ghost

    other things i would personally like to have happen, which would retcon certain things from the original comic itself would be...
    • autobot survivors of the ship that landed on junk(save UM) held captive by junkions(which is how they can also be introduced)
    • a few survivors of those consumed by unicron(jazz, cliffjumper, thundercracker, skywarp)
    • TC and SW replacing dirge and thrust as limbs of the megascream combiner(i have no love for the cone heads)
     
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  2. God Ginrai

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    No, it should not.

    Deviations is an abomination that is best left forgotten, like The Beast Within.
     
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    I would be okay with mini-series.
     
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  4. johnbonhamatron

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    Please no. That one issue nearly killed me...
     
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    I'd be all right with Deviations becoming a monthly anthology-ish book. Each month being an alternate take on a different idw property. 1 issue would be transformers, the next godzilla, the next ghostbuster, cvo, etc.
     
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  6. edgs2099

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    No.
     
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    I used to love Marvel's "What If?" The problem with it was when they began to run out of decent, salable premises. "What if Phoenix Lived?" was a good What If to do. "What If Dazzler became Galactus' herald?" was not a good What If to do, except for like hardcore Dazzler fans who knew what that premise was based on. Most non critical "What Ifs" (or Elseworlds or Deviations or whatever) tend to be based on some excruciating minutiae or don't really pass the test of being something that establishes the normal premise, the change to the premise and the outcome in a neat, little package. Once you get away from big ideas that Joe Comicbook can say "I know that" about, you are kind of off in "only a couple thousand people will read this" territory. They need to have big, dumb ideas like "What if the Transformers didn't crash land on earth 4 million years ago?" or "What if Megatron possessed the Matrix?" or stuff of that nature. Most anything else is only scratching the interest of the most ardent fans, and there's not enough of us to sustain that kind of book monthly. A special or limited series once in awhile, if they have a killer idea, is probably good enough. An ongoing would run thin on the ground far too quickly.
     
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    No, it was a bad idea badly executed and the result was a lot of fanservice and a very boring story.
     
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    Deviations? No.

    I wouldn't mind them trying again, though.
    Rename it, start over again and do better.
     
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    I'd be more for it if they actually had GOOD writers with GOOD ideas. Maybe with some other ideas.

    A good TFA Idea could be: What if Optimus, Elita, and Sentinel were unable to go on their trip to Archna 7. That would undoubtedly change a HUGE CHUNK of Transformers Animated story and plot line enough to warrant actual interest. Optimus might be in the head running of the Elite Guard, Bumblebee and Bulkhead might not have gotten tossed out of the academy and maybe things would have been better with Wasp etc.

    OR going to TFP: What if Optimus had either rejected the High Council's offer. OR offered Megatron to Co-lead as Prime with him? Maybe things would have gone different maybe not.

    For Armada fans: What if Starscream hadn't been killed in Armada. This might cause littile differences in Armada..but Energon might be different.

    Or possibly the great Deviation of all.

    "WHAT IF WE ACTUALLY REWROTE ENERGON AND PUT EFFORT INTO IT:
     
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    Effort put into Energon=the dreamwave comics as written by Simon Furman and illustrated by the Great Embezzler himself, Pat Lee.
     
  12. Insane Galvatron

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    I liked the concept of Deviations, but the execution was lacking. I'd like to see an ongoing series, but they'd have to all be one-shots. Each month, it could do alternate stories to a different cartoon episode. Not all just G1 either. They could do Animated, Prime, Beast Wars, etc. Who knows, maybe do a different "What if Prime didn't die in the movie" every year or so. For those that would prefer to see things play out differently. They could even do two-parters for the longer stories ( such as the movie ).
     
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    Hell no. Still wish I could get my money back.
     
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    What if the Quintessons really had a Decepticon matrix?
     
  15. ZeroiaSD

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    A series of What ifs could be good- not with that writer, though. Heck, even a re-do of that concept maybe...
     
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  16. supernova222

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    What if "heavy metal war" ended differently, like Optimus somehow beat megatron and the cons had to leave, or the autobots wound up leaving without learning of megatrons cheat.
     
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    If Deviations was a series of one shots? Maybe, that would be cool. With what we got, god no I never want to see that again. The actual issue was awful.
     
  18. Insane Galvatron

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    How about they do a Deviation comic for every episode of the G1 cartoon? Basically, take one thing in each episode that could drastically change the events and make the comic about that. Then do the typical 80's cartoon thing where status quo is reset by the end of the issue. That way events are in place for the next cartoon episode. It'd basically be a "what if things were different, but destined to end the same way" kinda thing. They sorta did this in the one issue we got where Prime ended up dead and Rodimus the leader anyway. But they could do all the episodes in order insuring a 100 issue run ( 98 episodes plus a two parter for the movie. )
     
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  19. Spontificus

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    As awful as Transformers Deviations turned out, and I think it is one of the worst things TF has produced in years, I do like the "What If" style premise. I wouldn't mind them revisiting the idea every now and again, but I probably do not need an ongoing.
     
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  20. Ikkstakk

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    Initially I was in the "nay" column, but then I started thinking about the current fan poll to choose the next Chosen One and how it's conceivable that the writers came up with different ideas for the series depending on who won. Now that would make some interesting What Ifs. Because they would be exploring where the story might actually have gone, and not some made-up deviation that was never a possibility to begin with.