Should cops wear cameras?

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  1. jestermon

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    I've never actually had a positive experience with a law enforcement officer since I was a child and I have never been arrested or committed a crime.

    I don't think cameras will even fix anything.
     
  2. Dark Skull

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    Won't be blinded by tear gas if I don't put myself in a position to be gassed. :) 
     
  3. Nemesis Scar

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    Hope you don't like exercising your constitutional rights.
     
  4. Koolimus Prime

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    sounds good to me
     
  5. General Magnus

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    I find hilarious how things are here compared to this debate. I just heard of a new summer fad here. Basically people are taking bets to see who has the guts to go out and randomly assault cops. With no reason, just for the hell of it.

    And people say the cops have too much power on their hands.
     
  6. tikgnat

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    Hrm. For those people saying camera's would 'make no difference, because Cops are all bad' without Police society would degenerate into... well Missouri.

    Law Enforcement isn't perfect by any means, but the world without it would be a terrible terrible place. So any attempt to improve accountabilty must be welcomed and encouraged.
     
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    Q: Why are cops assholes?

    A: With John Q. Public being who they are, do you blame them?
     
  8. Nemesis Scar

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    Hahahahaha, you just expressed support for excessive use of force.
     
  9. bacon4e

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    Pretty much.

    Honestly, like Tikgnat said, this is a step towards a more accountable, and hopefully less corrupt police force, and people seem to be against it because the police force is unaccountable and untrustworthy. Hmmmm...
     
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    It would violate way too many privacy laws
     
  11. Dark Skull

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    What some don't get are that there are multiple ways of exercising one's own constitutional rights. I guess not everyone's gotten the clue that always acting based upon your emotions isn't a good thing. Knowingly putting yourself in a position of getting gassed....well....I guess you can say that you're not going to be seen as the sharpest tool in the shed. But hey...Darwin needs to give awards away yearly and have that website updated so I can laugh.

    After all, what else are stupid people good for?

    It can be. And that's the intent of using the cameras, but as it's been highlighted, people will do what they will. It's like I said earlier, when we forget that we're dealing with fellow human beings, we're turning a blind eye to how this can fail miserably, or in a disastrous way. But hey....if people want to be naive. *shrugs* Ok. If people don't want to think things through...even better.

    Hahahahahha, you also just expressed your approval for someone to randomly assault a law enforcement officer :lol  Oh man...you must like laughing at the stupid mofos that end up on the Darwin Award nominations just like I do :lol 
     
  12. Dark Skull

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    I can see those news stories ending real well :lol  Oh man.....Darwin must be rolling in his grave.
     
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    Yes, and anytime a suspect is analyzed? Camera goes on.
     
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    Can you tell me of an interaction one would reasonably have with an officer while maintaining an expectation of privacy?

    There are no privacy laws that this would violate. Cops do not have a right to privacy while on the clock. Citizens interacting with cops don't have a right to privacy as they're interacting with other people. That's not private, you don't have a reasonable expectation to it, privacy laws do not apply.


    Cameras would solve a lot of problems. I'm all for it. If we can spend a billion dollars on a joint strike fighter that still doesn't work, we can afford cameras for cops.
     
  15. Autovolt 127

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    I know right?

    What I learned from all of this is this:

    Everybody did everything wrong.
     
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    And expressing one's beliefs in a completely legal format is...Darwin award worthy? Like underwater Beej is?


    Right, so maybe we should put some planning into it, instead of pushing away ideas and turning a blind eye towards the problem. Maybe cameras aren't the solution. Maybe cops are just people, after all. But hardly does that mean that anything proposed involving trust get immediately pushed aside. I dunno, it seems a little ignorant on the opposer's part.
     
  17. Haloid1177

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    Which somehow include breaking into stores, looting, setting fires, etc? They've gone way past their constitutional rights in that regard, and that is typically when shit gets shut down. There is a difference between freedom of assembly and rioting, and more often than not it starts in the right and ends in the wrong in cases like this.

    As for privacy violations with the cameras, I think it's a privacy violation to be profiled too. So why not stop that then too?
     
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    Speaking of Cameras and how video can change the situation - Here are some of the witness reports that the man charged the officer. The man did NOT surrender with his hands up.

    Mulitple autopsies confirm he was NOT shot in the back. He was shot multiple times in the torso ( center mass) and the head. The forensics match up with someone charging at someone.

    Again perfect situation for a camera as the mom is still stating to the press that her son was "murdered" by being shot 10 times in the back.

    A Witness Conversation Unknowingly Captured at the Scene of the Ferguson Shooting is a Game-Changer
     
  19. Dark Skull

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    Well let's see. If you know others around you are going to be irrational and violent. If you know others around you would commit acts that would force a reaction, knowing that in history it will....then yes. It has a potential to be Darwin Award worthy. Especially if you still chose to be within that crowd expecting local law enforcement to be able to single you out in a crowd that's now seen as an angry mob in their eyes. Seriously, just because you want to express yourself, it doesn't mean you should throw away any semblance of having common sense.

    But if you think it should, then let me come at you while I'm in that angry mob. Let me be one who isn't doing anything while others are shooting at you, throwing molotov cocktails at you, looting stores, etc. Let's see just how you're able to react when you're made to feel your life may be on the line. I promise you, things tend to change in terms of perspective when you're on the other side of the field.


    That was my whole point all along. We need to consider that we're dealing with fellow humans. Just as you say we shouldn't blindly dismiss it, we shouldn't blindly accept it either.
     
  20. Triceradon

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    Can we have a source that isn't so blatantly biased?
     
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