Shazam - WB/DC Movie Discussion

Discussion in 'Movies and Television' started by QLRformer, Nov 8, 2015.

  1. QLRformer

    QLRformer Seeker

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Posts:
    21,806
    News Credits:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    327
    Likes:
    +9,039
    A feature film of DC Comics’ Captain Marvel is in the works, with Rock Johnson signed on to play Marvel’s nemesis Black Adam. So what would you like to see in this film?


    A FUN TONE
    The most crucial thing I would like to see is a lighthearted tone, because Shazam has always been a bit of a fun hero. He’s a boy who can grow up into a superman; that is basically Tom Hanks’ BIG with superpowers, and maybe Jim Carrey’s THE MASK. The tone needs to be carefully fantastic and fun, a blend of fighting bad guys and saving the world mixed with a kid getting all his wishes come true and having the time of his life.

    In relation to this, the rogues’ gallery of Captain Marvel is a motley crew: a dark version of Cap (Black Adam), a bunch of mad scientists (the Sivana family), demons (Blaze, Sabbac), a Nazi (Capt Nazi), a mind-control worm (Mr Mind), and a robot (Mister Atom), among others. They’ve started out with Black Adam, but then he was the most fitting to be a villain; who could they go with after him?

    To be honest, Captain Marvel wouldn’t need to be fighting supervillains all the time. He is after all, a boy with the power of a god. He needs to learn about power and responsibility, but he also needs to be having fun with his powers. Like BEN 10, he could just be pulling off gags with the use of his powers.


    The comics that I think should be used as an influence are:
    - FIRST THUNDER – this recounted Captain Marvel’s early years (and his first team-up with Superman). All fun and games, until the bad guys take out his best friend. This teaches him the harsh truth about the adult world. It also spotlights the reason the wizard Shazam gave these powers to a boy instead of an adult: because a child has an innate nobility that adults don’t have, and while a child has a hard time navigating the grey shades of an adult world, he couldn’t find anyone else good/capable enough to wield these powers.
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]


    - Billy Batson and the Magic of SHAZAM – this was simply a fun retelling of Captain Marvel’s adventures. And one that I think makes a solid reflection of how a live-action Capt Marvel would be.
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]



    THE MARVEL FAMILY
    Usually Capt Marvel has some family/friends to aid him. I think he should first start off alone, then in any sequels (if they happen) he should be accompanied by his sister Mary. You don't see many superhero families kicking butt together on screen.
    [​IMG]


    HERO APPEARANCES
    I think Wonder Woman (and maybe Superman) should make an appearance in this.

    Wonder Woman is a half-god, so she has ties to Capt Marvel with his use of Greco-Roman deities and would be perfect to see in the film.

    Superman I am less sure about, because it’s too easy to get Superman and Capt Marvel to fight each other. Particularly since the DC Cinematic Universe’s version of Superman is less a tights-clad champion of justice and more an alien raised on earth and targeted as a potential threat. Maybe just have Capt Marvel be a fan of Superman, with him not really understanding how complex Supe’s position is to the world.
     
  2. Tekkaman Blade

    Tekkaman Blade Professor of Animation

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2002
    Posts:
    31,631
    News Credits:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    412
    Location:
    Georgia
    Likes:
    +12,900
    The original graphic Novel Power of Shazam was also pretty good. Also the Alex Ross Power of Hope.
     
  3. QLRformer

    QLRformer Seeker

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Posts:
    21,806
    News Credits:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    327
    Likes:
    +9,039
    Checked them out. Power of Shazam looks okay, but Power of Hope is awesome; Alex Ross knows how to make Capt Marvel look like a boss (KINGDOM COME was sterling proof of that), and the story perfectly captures the balance of super-powered fun and responsibility.

    [​IMG]
     
  4. Aernaroth

    Aernaroth <b><font color=blue>I voted for Super_Megatron and Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    Posts:
    26,336
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    422
    Likes:
    +5,026
    I hope they draw from Jeff Smith's Shazam! And the Monster Society of Evil

    [​IMG]

    I really, really enjoyed this graphic novel, and I thought it nailed the idea of the magic of Shazam being not about power or control but about being a metaphor for building a family and finding our place in the world, about using our strengths to build those relationships and a better community instead of focusing on ourselves.

    I'm actually kind of hyped for The Rock as Black Adam.
     
  5. Murasame

    Murasame

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2008
    Posts:
    22,286
    News Credits:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    362
    Location:
    The Lost Light
    Likes:
    +7,432
    I remember the comic where Dr. Sivana siphoned the shazam powers. That was awesome.
     
  6. rapid_fire

    rapid_fire TFW2005 Supporter

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2003
    Posts:
    5,201
    Trophy Points:
    367
    Likes:
    +2,532
    At first I thought this thread was about this

    [​IMG]
     
    • Like Like x 1
  7. Aernaroth

    Aernaroth <b><font color=blue>I voted for Super_Megatron and Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2004
    Posts:
    26,336
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    422
    Likes:
    +5,026
    Wisdom of Shaquille O'Neal
    Strength of sHaquille O'Neal
    Stamina of shAquille O'Neal
    Power of shaquilleZ O'Neal
    Courage of shaqueAl O'Neal
    Speed of Shaquille O'Meal
     
    • Like Like x 1
  8. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2006
    Posts:
    83,057
    News Credits:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    412
    Likes:
    +1,950
    I just want a fun movie. They already made Superman depressing, leave Captain Marvel out of it.

    He's a kid gosh darn it!
     
    • Like Like x 2
  9. Gordon_4

    Gordon_4 The Big Engine

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2007
    Posts:
    16,349
    News Credits:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    332
    Likes:
    +5,413
    Man, Alex Ross can fucking DRAW! I love that man's style.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  10. QLRformer

    QLRformer Seeker

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Posts:
    21,806
    News Credits:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    327
    Likes:
    +9,039
  11. Ravenxl7

    Ravenxl7 W.A.F.F.L.E.O.

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2006
    Posts:
    22,556
    News Credits:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    337
    Likes:
    +141
    Interesting. Looks like that unspecified DC movie for October of 2018 could very well be Shazam. I was assuming that would be the release date for The Batman, but maybe they're saving it for the added 2019 date.

    While I don't want to see them go overboard like Marvel is starting to, I would kinda like to see Captain Marvel and Black Adam fight alongside/against some of the other DC-CU characters. Maybe in the second Justice League movie?

    That said, I'm really starting to get antsy over who they'll cast for Captain Marvel and Billy. I hope they're careful in their selection process.
     
  12. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2006
    Posts:
    83,057
    News Credits:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    412
    Likes:
    +1,950
    Oh yeah I totally forgot this was a thing.

    Hope they finally get started on the casting process, outside of The Rock we don't know who else is in it.
     
  13. QLRformer

    QLRformer Seeker

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Posts:
    21,806
    News Credits:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    327
    Likes:
    +9,039
    SHAZAM Producer Hiram Garcia Talks About The Film's Tone, Development, And DC Films

    "The great thing with Shazam for me as a fan, I was always a fan of Superman and his mythology as I grew up. I remember it was Alex Ross's Kingdom Come that was the first time that ever made me look at Shazam just differently. I just knew of Shazam, you know the name, you knew the word, but I thought Alex Ross... He portrayed him and drew him in that epic kind of conflict that him and Superman ultimately had. It just made me look at Shazam in way like this is a bad mother[frick]er."

    "I promise you dude, we're not gonna f--- this up! My vision is so clear for this story and this movie. As story tellers, you sometimes get on projects but this has always been a priority. I've been carrying the Black Adam torch for so many years before we finally locked it in and I'm telling you we're gonna knock this thing out of the park. It's gonna be a blast and it's gonna be a dope ride, so get ready!"
     
  14. QLRformer

    QLRformer Seeker

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Posts:
    21,806
    News Credits:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    327
    Likes:
    +9,039
  15. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2006
    Posts:
    83,057
    News Credits:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    412
    Likes:
    +1,950
  16. QLRformer

    QLRformer Seeker

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Posts:
    21,806
    News Credits:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    327
    Likes:
    +9,039
  17. SouthtownKid

    SouthtownKid Headmaster

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2011
    Posts:
    24,129
    News Credits:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    322
    Likes:
    +8,141
    ...says a guy who really knew nothing about the character, and then thinks Kingdom Come is a valid introduction. Uggggggghhhhh...

    Also, a guy who says, "I promise you, dude!" is clearly another Snyder. Uggggggggghhhhh...

    :( 
     
  18. Autovolt 127

    Autovolt 127 Get In The Titan, Prime!

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2006
    Posts:
    83,057
    News Credits:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    412
    Likes:
    +1,950
    • Like Like x 1
  19. Decepticons

    Decepticons B∆K. Bug-a-Boo Ghost.

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2013
    Posts:
    4,097
    News Credits:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Likes:
    +121
    • Like Like x 1
  20. QLRformer

    QLRformer Seeker

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Posts:
    21,806
    News Credits:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    327
    Likes:
    +9,039