SHATTERED GLASS

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  1. Superdinobros12

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    THE SHATTERED GLASS NEEDS A DAMN SERIES!
     
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  2. IGEBM

    IGEBM The Loremaster

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    Well, duh

    It's an amazing concept that should definitely be explored more

    I personally enjoyed IDW's series, but I'd love to get something longer and larger like the original Fun Pub SG universe
     
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    The Count Countdown89 TFW2005 Supporter

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    Personally I enjoy SG more when it's just a joke or you have a short story where a normal universe character reacts to it before going back to his universe. Otherwise it just becomes normal Transformers except everyone swapped bodies lmao.
     
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    What idw did to Shattered Glass Ravage should be considered a war crime.
     
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  5. IGEBM

    IGEBM The Loremaster

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    Indeed

    As I said, I liked the IDW series, but I will never forgive Danny Lore for writing Ravage that way, even if he barely appeared lol
     
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    BethCyra Shut it blinky!

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    Given Ultra Magnus becomes a deranged bad ass while Slipstream becomes a warm and gentle lesbian?

    Yeah I’m super down for a down on SG.
     
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    Look forward. Imagine turning every TF universe into SG. I mean, how cool it would be to see Unicron trilogy, "Highmoonverse", and Beast Wars in SG way.
     
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    The problem is doing something interesting with SG.
    As a one off glimpse it might work, but you do a full series with it, then it will get old fast.
     
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    It already is.
     
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    If you had to do a full series, I go for obscure characters and obscure versions of established characters (Cybertron Downshift instead of G1 Wheeljack, Goldbug instead of Bumblebee, etc).

    Probably would make it a movie or an OVA instead of a full series as well.
     
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    What kind of Shattered Glass series would we most likely to get ?
     
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    A TV Series!
     
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    I would make an SG cartoon a comedy with over the top violence. Shattered Glass works best when the characters are set to the max.
    Optimus Prime killing elephants because
    Starscream being almost romantic with his admiration of Megatron
    Beachcomber being unbelievably violent and not turning into a military vehicle
     
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    I said this in the other thread about this topic:

    I think there are really only 4 ways you can do something with Shattered Glass other than shorts, backup stories, and convention-exclusive type stuff:

    1) a limited run comic or tpb as a side-story to a broader ongoing series (like IDW did)

    2) an episode or story arc within a more regular TV series where either characters from the main cast visit the other universe or they or we get a glimpse into that universe with a bit of grounding about what it is.

    3) a piece of an anthology series that explores a lot of different concepts where this is one of them

    4) A mini-series, special, or off-season short-run counterpart to an ongoing series that is outside the narrative of that show but is associated with it.

    This is largely because of one important thing that is the crux of my post: You need the framework of a "regular" show or story to make a Shattered Glass story make sense. otherwise it's just random, pointless, fluffy fanservice for existing fans that will mean nothing to anyone else. A good show or comic is designed to be able to draw in a new audience in addition to serving the existing one. But Shattered Glass without the context of its counterpoint normal version of the story is just going to be an unusual, bog-standard TF show with the roles reversed.

    Bloodthirsty, genocidal tyrant Optimus without the launching pad of a regular compassionate Optimus with an aversion to violence is little more than a paper thin cartoonish villain. Fawning, sycophantic ultra-loyal Starscream without knowing the background of super-traitor usurper Starscream is probably just an annoying goody-goody supporting hero. If you don't create the foundation of what your twisted funhouse mirror SG universe is supposed to invert, then there is no inversion at all and it's just a weird alternate take without any basis. Sure it'll work for hardcore TF fans that get what Shattered Glass is and how all this works. But it won't bring in new fans without confusing them when they realize that this is the weird series and nothing else is like it or even casual TF fans who don't get that this is largely a giant gag/joke.

    There's a reason that tons of series and franchises have mirror universe concepts but pretty much none of them do anything more than the occasional peek into that world. Star Trek popularized the whole evil mirror universe story in sci-fi and they've never done a whole series that's solely set in that universe. There's a reason for that.
     
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    Why do you think that ?
     
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    Basically, it's the same reason we don't get, say, the Crime Syndicate on their own in DC Comics adaptations. The concept of "the usual characters but bad" only works if you have the context of the normal version.
     
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  17. Zentropy

    Zentropy Toys > Fiction

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    I like TF:SG only because it (sometimes) generates cool alternative decos for the toys. As a fiction, I think it’s kind of lame. The concept itself is unoriginal and the character personalities are too exaggerated.

    I mean, I wouldn’t wish it away if others took enjoyment from it, but I don’t think I’d be interested in a series about it.
     
  18. Murasame

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    Actually there's only one SG universe, that's mirror to all other continuities. That's why it sucked that the new SG was basically just evil G1 versions.
     
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    Not correct

    The original SG universe is mostly a G1 mirror with a few other characters sprinkled in, but it doesn’t mirror all the other universes. I know y’all will kill
    me for referencing Ask Vector Prime, but in all fairness, this is a good place to do it, and according to him, there are multiple negative polarity universes. (Case in point: SG TFA)
     
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