Both of them had the upper hand against Optimus, though it seems to me that Megatron would have a slight edge in this fight, as he was pretty much wiping the floor with Optimus, whereas Sentinels fight was more equal.

Who do you think would win?

EDIT: I added a poll.

 

Sentinel. All he would have to do is land one hit with the cosmic rust gun and Megatron was toast.

 

Megatron has air superiority in 2007 so I'd say that's cheating a bit, but it's MEGATRON he will totally exploit being a jet.

That gun is 100% broken, which could explain why they never used it after Ironhide got blasted. That should have been Megatron's gun or any other Decepticon because they use guns more than Sentinel who just uses his big Darth Maul blade.

 

If Sentinel couldn't handle a broken-down Megatron how could he handle one at full strength?

Though I think if it came to ambushes, then whoever makes the first move would win.

 

I disagree as the Autobots has some versatile fighters.
Sideswipe dual weilding pistols and swords
Optimus Prime even has dual swords, an axe, dual pistols, and a shotgun, later a sheild/gun, a broad or long sword I forget which it was, and in Bumblebee a rifle.
Bumblebee has shoulder cannons, his plasma gun, a blade in Bumblebee, and a warhammer in TLK.

Sort of Hound too, because he uses different guns as well as a knife and a cigar bullet that one time.

Megatron in DOTM was understandably weaker than his Movie 1. I'd urgue Megatron was at his strongest in ROTF as he fought a less restrained Optimus. Compared to how Optimus fought Bonecrusher knocking him off the highway to a more secluded area. As Movie 1 Optimus appeared to be holding back due to being in a heavily populated area, while in the forest fight it was less populated and he was able to keep Sam in one place, under that tree trunk, and intercepted any Decepticon that got close When Movie 1 Megatron fired his gun on Optimus it knock him off his feet, same thing happened in ROTF except this time it left a burn mark on Optimus chest. Megatron also delivered a heavy spin kick that destroyed Optimus faceplate. And later survived a napalm strike that dessimated his army.

 

That gun would certainly be an advantage. It took three shots to fully take out Ironhide though, and Megatron is a lot bigger than him, so surely it would take more than one or three shots.

And then there's this.
How is Sentinel supposed to hit Megatron when he's flying? He couldn't hit Optimus when he was just running towards him.

 

Bigger targets are easier to hit.

By pointing up? You act like trying to shoot things from the ground is impossible.

 

And require more shots to be taken down.

No I don't, and you very clearly missed my point - Optimus was running, and Sentinel couldn't hit him. So how is he going to be able to hit someone who's flying at high speeds?

 

How is this a question?? Sentinel would wreck Skeletron. All he has to do is play "cube fetch" and just rip Megs spine out while he's distracted.

 

The Cosmic Rust gun was not a freakin' shotgun. It probably could be fired multiple times.

Optimus, running at Sentinel, could dodge simply because he could see where Sentinel was pointing - Megatron, flying through the air, is moving at such speed that he actually CAN'T move out of the way as quickly simply because the window of time he has to react to things is significantly reduced. Thus, all Sentinel has to do is predict where he's going to fly and fire there instead of actually at Megatron.

It's anti-air 101. You act like this isn't a problem that was solved back in world war 1 when the most anti-air there was, ground wise, was literally just firing machine guns into the air at biplanes.

 

Not what I meant.
He would have to hit Megatron multiple times, meaning Megatron would get the chance to disarm him.
And automatic shotguns do exist btw.

And Sentinel could just as easily see where Optimus was moving, and the rate of fire on his cannon was good enough to be able to hit him.
Are you implying that Megatron is blind? He could also predict where Sentinel is going to shoot and then dodge. And judging by Starscreams reaction time Megatron should be more than capable of doing so.
Sentinels marksmanship skills simply aren't good enough for this. He'd have more of a chance in close quarters combat.

The speed of his jet can't be compared to WW1 planes, though it can be compared to a modern jet, and it's not like anyone's shooting down F22s with rifles.

 

The point, which you seem to have missed, is that the gun isn't limited to only one round before needing to be reloaded - if it needs to be reloaded at all. Sure, he might need to hit Megatron more than once...but you act like Sentinel couldn't pull the trigger more than once. For all you know, that gun has an automatic mode.

So you're saying that Sentinel is a bad shot with the gun, then?

You clearly do not understand the speed at which is required for atmospheric flight if you think Megatron in the air could simply move to the side without having to move forward some distance. Otherwise, please tell me where you've seen a modern fighter jet magically perform a hairpin 90 degree turn in the air where he does NOT move forward relative to his original trajectory.

Based on a single scene where the only guy even remotely close to what Sentinel's combat level is showed he could dodge that specific gun's shot?

You also can't compare Sentinel's abilities to that of contemporary ground anti-air, either. He's a super advanced robotic organism, for all you know his brain can compute advanced trigonometry to accurately predict the flight path of a target.

 

I would say Megatron.
Imagine how powerful he was before being frozen...

 

Sentinel shoots Ironhide twice back to back, no reason he couldn't squeeze off multiple shots in rapid succession.

 

I did not imply that. I even said that the fire rate was good. Of course he could pull the trigger more than once, but by that time Megatron would have caught up to him.
Now you are assuming it has an automatic mode? Why were not every Autobot a pile of rust at the end of DotM then?

I am clearly saying that he is not good enough to hit someone in the air. That does not necesarrily mean he is a bad shot.

Cybertronians are much more agile than modern jets. Again, just look at Starscream. Can you show me any fighter jet that can move like he does?

And said combatant was not as skilled as Megatron.

Yet another assumption. Then predicting Optimus's movement should not be a problem.

 

I think Sentinel Prime is older and through his experience wiser than Megatron. So that is why I believe he would win.

 

How, though? You keep assuming this scenario in which you don't actually describe any of the details of engagement? How exactly is Megatron coming at Sentinel? A dive-bomb charge from the sky? Running at him head on like the opposing morons in my last D2 crucible match who didn't notice I'd popped Stormcall while running at me at Point A on The Burnout and thus got their asses electrocuted on the spot?

1. It's very hard to have a movie where the Autobots ultimately win if Sentinel simply killed them all - which he basically tried to do anyway by blowing up their ship after convincing the humans to force the Autobots off-planet.
2. At the battle of Chicago, Sentinel was more preoccupied babying the Spacebridge system and left dealing with the Autobots to the Decepticon forces.
3. In conjunction with the above point, the Decepticons ultimately were enough to incapacitate the Autobots for the most part, it's only human intervention that allows the captured Autobots to turn the tables. And then Prime and Sentinel get deadlocked in a fight in close quarters in which Sentinel pretty much was going to win if Megatron hadn't popped off a shotgun round in his back.

Clearly you've never been skeet shooting.

But...Starscream is an F-22. Which is not cybertronian. You show me a scene where Starscream does something in alt. mode that proves your point, besides the thing where he goes Hot Shots! over Mission City and destroys two F-22's by assuming Macross Gerwalk mode and breaks their wings with his arms.

Optimus is not as skilled as Megatron? Megatron is more powerful if we're talking the 2007 version, sure, but he isn't so much skilled as he is simply a colosssal force of brutality given most of what he does is smash things around the city, quite literally including himself right through a building.

You've never played laser tag either, apparently.

 

2007 Megatron vs Sentinel.
Megatron
Rotf Megatron vs Sentinel
Megatron
Dotm Megatron vs Sentinel
Sentinel
Galvatron vs Sentinel.
Galvatron would shred both his gun and sentinel with the chest hole.
Knight Megatron vs Sentinel.
Maybe Megatron would talk him to death

 

If Megatron charged at him he could dodge the shots like Optimus did. And again, he is more agile in the air.
And it is not like the fight would be exclusive to just one of your mentioned Scenarios.

Though to answer your question, what I originally had in mind upon creating this thread was how they would fare against one another in close quarters combat.

None of this reinforces your argument that his gun would have an automatic mode. Because if it did he could have just jumped down from the rooftop and blasted them all, then climbed up to resume his work with the pillars.
From what we saw his gun had the firerate of a modern handgun.

I clearly meant the scene where he transforms into robot mode and takes down the F-22s.

That does in no way mean that Megatron is less skilled than Optimus. Saying Megatron is more skilled than Optimus may have been a mistake on my part, but he is absolutely not less skilled.

So shooting a target that is being flung into the air is the same thing as shooting a jet? And what does it matter if I have never done it?

The same goes for this.

 

Not only would 2007 Megatron win, I'd dare say that he would win easily. Megatron was a monster in the first movie and would toss Sentinel like a ragdoll similar to how he did Optimus. The Cosmic Rust gun is an advantage of Sentinel's but he only used it the once and seems to prefer using his sword and shield.