Robosen Optimus $699.99 Thread

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by blastoff2334, Apr 9, 2021.

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Do you think this new product could be stepping away from what we love about Transformers as toys?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Ramberk Magnus

    Ramberk Magnus Well-Known Member

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    Why wouldn't Hasbro tell Robosen to use their marketing language on a Hasbro licensed product?

    It's silly what Hasbro is doing but it makes sense. Right now Hasbro can't stop other toy makers from plastering their toys with the word "transform" when it's used to describe their product but maybe they are hoping that in the future they can trademark the word "transform" if it stops being used in common language. IANAL, so I don't know how trademark law works and I'm just making assumptions about Hasbro's strategy here.
     
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  3. skwonderfactory

    skwonderfactory Me Scott like Transformers!

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    because they’re legal team says so.
     
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  5. tigermask44

    tigermask44 Kills Cons Dead!

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    Oh-Kay… why did they decide to keep the truck lights on behind his hands on his forearms while he’s in bot mode…? It looks ridiculous unless that’s an option you can turn off…
     
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    Neat, but definitely not my jam.
     
  8. RodimusZero

    RodimusZero Steezin fo no Reason

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    For f**ks sake:banghead: 

    I tell you what though, I would laugh and be kind of impressed if after 35 years,
    Hasbro announces at PulseCon they're renaming this brand "The Converters" :lol 
    Maybe they factions will get renamed "Carbots" and "Dishonestcons" :rolleyes: 

    Seriously though, how could they drop the ball here?
    Am I missing something? Does saying the word "Transform" to a robot
    cause it to explode or something??? Sigh.

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  9. RodimusZero

    RodimusZero Steezin fo no Reason

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    I don't think it's being petty (also apologies for not reading previous posts before posting my last one),
    when this is the most expensive "converting" Optimus Prime ever released (*because ULTIMETAL also exists),
    doing anything half-assed I think is unacceptable. Besides, they're selling this to adults (not kids--to be generous,
    maybe fathers and sons... but not just kids), who have probably been fans for 35 years looking for that ultimate
    "showpiece", and I don't think I'm alone when I say that if I bought this, and had it in my house to show off to some friends
    who came over, and was like "hey guys, check this out; 'Optimus Prime, Convert!!' " my friends, if they had any knowledge
    of Transformers, would be like, "uhh, what the f**k are you doing, don't you mean Transform???"

    C'mon Hasbro...

    Also, that stuff in that article about the trademark sounds like bullshit to me.
    If they have the trademark, then they should use the hell out of it, show the marketplace how much they own it,
    and if they're serious about it, then anytime some competitor puts "transform" on the box, they could sue.
    That's how the free market economy/capitalism works :rolleyes:  This is also Marketing 101--everytime they say
    "Convert" they're actually undermining their brand value, and creating a mixed message from a customer behavior perspective.
     
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  10. Black Convoy

    Black Convoy Proudly Peruvian Transfan Moderator News Staff

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    Well deserved! Thanks for sharing it here!!
     
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    welcome to to transformers they’ve been using the word convert and change or even “robot to -insert altmode-“ on packaging and instructions for over a decade(nearly 2) now and it’s been explained literally one page before this
     
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  12. 84OptimusPrime

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    At 5:05 The reviewer says, “If you say change form or something that rhymes with change form, he will convert.”

    I may be mistaken, but doesn’t that mean that you can say “transform” Optimus will then transform?

    I was under the impression they put the word “convert” in the instructions instead of “transform”, but the word transform will still work. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
     
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    I wonder who this is even for, especially at that price. What a waste of materials.
     
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    My guess is that they know most people are going to say "transform" instead of convert but for the legal reasons mentioned in this thread they just don't advertise it.
     
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    Could the same not be said for most TF toys?
     
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    Completely unrelated, but that transformation got me thinking. In the last fifteen years, there have been only twenty-four Optimus Primes released where the vehicle mode grill becomes the abdominal grill rather than hiding on the back. Five of those were from Animated, seven from Rescue Bots, two from Prime, five from RiD 2015, two from Generations, and the remaining three from Cybertron, Universe, and Kre-O. Considering how many Optimi there are, that's much fewer than I was expecting!
     
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    As I recall shortly after it was first revealed, it was confirmed you could say either convert or transform. Just all of the official material says convert. Not sure why Sharktimus couldn't say it though.
     
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  19. jrod1019

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    But can he get me a beer for $700.

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  20. jimmyh

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    Once the novelty of self-transforming (or self converting) wears off, and it will, you will be left with an Optimus that looks clunky next to even a Cyberverse toy.  Meanwhile, Lewin has a display presence that will never get old.
     
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