Some members of the Thirteen really don't make any sense the way they're currently written while others are just really terrible characters all together so I'd like to propose a new version of the 13 that fixes some of the issues. Some of these I'm just going to say their name, those will more or less stay the same except everyone will have an alt mode. Not going to discuss the alt mode here because there's already another thread for that. 1. Prima Prime 2. Logos Prime 3. Vector Prime: I my mind Vector Prime and Alpha Trion are the same character. I just imagine that he changes his name to Alpha Trion similar to how Alchemist became Maccadam. This is largely due to an Alpha Trion figure that was literally a repaint of Vector Prime with a new head. I wanted to keep him in the number 3 spot because it works nicely with the name Trion and had Logos take Vector's old spot on the list. 4. Solus Prime 5. Micronus Prime 6. Alchemist Prime 7. Amalgamous Prime: He will no longer be known for having the only T-Cog in the group. Instead he's going to be known as the first Transformer to take multiple different alternate modes. Characters like Blitzwing, Octane, Astrotrain, and Sixshot will worship this guy because he's the first of their kind. 8. Onyx Prime 9. Nexus Prime: For clarity sake because it's really confusing how a combiner can be a member of the 13 without screwing up the numbering system I'm going to clearly define that only the combined form is a Prime. The individual bots who form Nexus are not Primes and that's why they aren't included in the count. I also switched the order of Amalgamous and Nexus so that we could avoid debates about how Nexus technically has more than two modes because he's a combiner. This way Amagamous can be the first to have more than two modes without the risk of being seen as a contradiction to Nexus. 10. Epistemus Prime (Taking the place of Quintus because I hate him.) 11. Solomus: I'm removing Liege Maximo for three reasons. A. The name doesn't really work as a Prime. B. Megatronus is suppose to be the first Decepticon which makes zero sense when Liege Maximo comes before him on the list making it appear like Liege should be the first Decepticon not Megatronus. C. It also makes no sense why Megatronus is the first Decepticon if he never actually did anything evil and was only being manipulated by Liege Maximo so I'm getting rid of that whole part of the story and making Megatronus more of a villain in the process. 12. Megatronus Prime/The Fallen: More similar to War Within in design with a backstory more like the RotF movie cause that guy was a straight up villain. 13. Autonomous Prime: Because I don't think anyone likes the idea that Optimus is one of the original 13.