Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by urrutiap, May 21, 2020.
I can't stand the movie. But then again, its not as bad as AOE and TLK...
It needed a few more revisions, and some characters needed to be pruned, but overall, it's a diamond in the rough. It's got some real low spots, but some of its high spots are damned high: the forest battle alone is just awesome.
Loved it, watched it again over the last couple of days whilst in my gym, coincidentally..
Robot designs looked great.
I remember enjoying it a lot more the second time I saw it. I think I was a bit shocked by the crude scenes the first time. The second time, since I was aware of them, they didn't have as negative of an affect on me and I was able to enjoy the good parts more.
I mean its always been one of those films that have the right balance between Good and Bad (well not bad just Very Corny.) for me because on one hand you have some of the best fights in the films but at the same time characters feel underutilized.
While I despise ROTF and the rest of the bayverse, some of the figures that came out were actually pretty good. I still have a Voyager ROTF Movie Optimus, Bayverse Jazz, and Bayverse Arcee on a shelf in my basement-but I like the 3rd-party ones better. While I like some of the Bay designs, overall, I like the BB designs better, and I'll even add Binaltech , Armada, TF Cybertron, BW, and Alternators, too, as my favorite designs. I'll even say I wish the 1980s G1 figures were like the 3rd-party MPs and others that have come to pass for the past several years.
The first film and ROTF were the reason I got into Transformers. I watched both of them in the summer of 2009. I don't think ROTF is bad as people say but it's not great either. I enjoyed the movie for what it was. In fact, I'm fine with the first three movies and I think they're somewhat competent but I simply can't stand AOE or TLK. The toyline for ROTF was incredible. I also loved the soundtrack and Megatron's design in that movie. Megatron's design was a huge improvement over the one in 2007. The fight in the forest was awesome. The film definitely has some major flaws though. I'm still not a fan of some of the designs, the sexual and dirty jokes, and how convoluted the story was but I enjoyed it nevertheless. It actually felt like a sequel to the previous film unlike TLK. I'll always remember seeing Devastator combine for the first time. I had no idea what the hell was going on.
Despite the writing issues, geographical continuity issues, and arguably having too many robots and humans, I never thought RotF was a decline in quality from the 2007 movie.
On the contrary, I thought it was the beginning of an improvement streak. I thought RotF was actually an overall improvement over the 2007 movie, and DotM was an overall improvement over RotF, and AoE was an overall improvement over DotM.
For instance, I never thought the story was dumber than the 2007 movie; it's actually more logical than the 2007 movie. Yeah, the Allspark's knowledge getting imprinted on Sam's mind isn't realistic, but it does follow in-universe logic, and it's better than the stupid glasses getting imprinted with the coordinates for the Allspark...and it's much MORE realistic than a Cube the size of a house shrinking to the size of a box able to get carried by Sam or Frenzy gaining a new, fully functional body out of nothing.
Each individual movie does some things better than the others and some things worse than the others. There wasn't this imaginary point in the movies' run where everything was suddenly much worse. Not RotF. Not DotM. Not AoE. Not even TLK.
Despite all its flaws, I'd say it's the most fun film in the franchise.
Creative designs? Check
Badass action sequences? Check
Feels like an epic that covers various settings? Check.
Formally introduces major themes that would eventually play big roles in the franchise? Check.
Ancient Egypt? Check.
That said though, despite their flaws each movie has a unique identity.
2007 had the magic.
Rotf had the adventure.
DotM had the "it all comes down to this" vibe, and it was the most G1 influenced film of the series.
AoE opened up the film universe to something bigger and different.
TLK had the "its so bad not even the fans liked it" Da Vanci Code on crack vibe.
Well there was a writers strike going on at the time during filming/process of Revenge of the Fallen. But that didnt stop Micheal Bay which was a good thing
It’s a really stupid movie. But it’s fun. And it looks good. And everything blows up. And I cut it some slack because of the writer’s strike. It’s a totally forgettable popcorn movie & that’s ok.
Sure it's a mess, but it's a fun mess to watch. I like it.
Its my second favourite live action transformers movie ( only Bumblebee is prefered)
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