Retconned characters as G1 masterpieces?

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by Iskander, Sep 25, 2017.

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Would you buy retconned masterpieces?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Iskander

    Iskander TF The Lost Seasons

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    Hi, I've pitched a G1 version of Movie Barricade idea/design to a third party, they liked it, but think it wouldn't sell well.
    Would you buy this type of characters?
     
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  2. Windsweeper II

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    I would buy MP Prime Thundertron :) 

    And maybe MP TLK Megatron and Steelbane.
     
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  3. blorgicus

    blorgicus Well-Known Member

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    I would buy a masterpiece lugnut in the style of RTS Lugnut
     
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  4. El Duque

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    Sounds interesting, but if I'm being honest, not something I would actually buy.
     
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  5. GR1ML0CK

    GR1ML0CK Dinobot Commander

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    Same here. Sounds cool but no. I did however buy rotf Bludgeon aka Susanoo
     
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  6. ProtectronPrime

    ProtectronPrime Subjectively Objective

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    Retcons into other continuities is basically what Transformers DO. This fandom has mined the outer reaches of the G1 series to the point of near exhaustion. Characters like Glyph and Strika, the Rainmakers and the "Welcoming Committee"... there's barely a background character that hasn't been retroactively made into a thing.

    That being said, I think your hurdle is you're trying to retcon a Bayverse character into G1. While it's arguable that Bayverse transformers don't have any more or less personality than the G1 characters, I think most hardcore G1 types don't want to mix in any Bayverse stuff in their peanut butter, so to speak. I'd even go so far to say that the Bayverse guys are the LEAST likely group that G1 MP collectors want leaking into their shelves even if they've been properly restyled with the G1 aesthetic.

    However, I would say that people that are primarily IDW/MMC fans would probably be way more interested.

    Just my thoughts based on observations. I could be totally wrong.
     
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  7. Iskander

    Iskander TF The Lost Seasons

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    G1 Barricade animation model 2.0.jpg Masterpiece Barricade alt mode.jpg This is what I pitched, it's just to give a rough idea, actual design could look different of course. But the idea is to take an existing vehicle from G1/Diaclone times and give it a G1-ish robot mode.
     
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  8. The Smirker

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    992.png Why not? HIM:
     
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  9. thrustjet24

    thrustjet24 Little known member of the Rainmakers

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    I would definitely buy that G1 version of Barricade. It looks great. I would be down for Masterpiece G1 versions of:

    -- Slipstream
    -- Lugnut
    -- Barricade
    -- Bulkhead
    -- Arachnid
     
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  10. CVprowl

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    I love that Barricade design. They have to make a G1 version too though! :) 

    EDIT: I mean an old school G1 version like the Glacialbots.
     
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    That's actually kinda cool, and few people are more g1 purist than me.
     
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  12. Windsweeper II

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    Now that i would gladly throw money at.
    But i'd want them in CW style.

    Now i've seen what you mean Iskander, i'm gonna have to pass.
    I think i misunderstood your question too.
    I wouldn't want a G1 version of TLK Megatron or Steelbane, more like good solid MP's.
    But i would enjoy a G1 Thundertron MP and i did like that Botcon Barricade they made from Prime Beasthunters Prowl.
    I would like a G1isch Barricade MP, but more in the style of the Botcon toy.
    In fact that's the only Barricade toy i've ever been interested in.
     
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  13. mikeszekely

    mikeszekely Not Pessimus Prime

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    Would I be interested in a black and purple robot of similar size to an MP car that turns into a black and white police car that has a mostly G1 aesthetic but is really homaging movie Barricade? Yes. But keep the modern Saleen Mustang.
     
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  14. Sammael

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    I would buy it as a CHUG style deluxe. It would need to be a bit more involved than a re-shelled Prowl, though.
     
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    I like the idea of "retconned G1" characters. So yeah, someone should try this out and see if a market exists. Certainly no one has tried it before, there wouldn't be any competition.
     
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  16. Ra88

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    Hell yes. There is a ton of things you can do with that, and it's actually a fun, creative challenge too. How do you translate these characters to fit in the G1 style? What do you change, what do you keep? You can even do existing modern versions in the G1 style, something that Guido Guidi did to perfection.

    I mean, just look at some of these examples. Not all are how I'd do them? But there is some serious potential in the idea. It has longevity for collectors who also like other series then G1, it is a good challenge for the 3rd party designers....
     

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  17. Ra88

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    Dude, you should totally do more of these! And post them in the 2D Art forum, they can get lost in the 3P section. :lol 
     
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    I'd honestly give anything for a retool of MP Grapple as Bulkhead.
     
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    It's a really cool idea. Idk about Barricade, but maybe someone else similar.
     
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  20. Windsweeper II

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    That Blackout and Barricade look quite nice. What a new head and a little colour can do.
    I like the Throttlebots, but the others are a bit lazy. Even if i like Steve Tracks.
     
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