Discussion in 'The Toyark' started by Kickback, Sep 17, 2006.
You could probably buy a MISB vintage red dragon and assault team for that price!
The pricetag on the Thunder Megazord is high, but not unreasonably. We HAVE to assume the Red Dragon Zord is fully functional, since the whole point of the line is to recapture the play patterns of the original. So, in fairness, the Red Dragon alone is probably worth as much as a White Tiger Zord, give or take. They should even be similar sizes, if not the same amount of bulk.
Then you have the other four zords, their elaborate paint, materials, and transformation/combination mechanisms compatible with either Dragon or Tiger, as well as the staff and sword accessories, also all painted. Combined, that should, again, be worth about 1 White Tiger Zord.
So, combined, we are at about 2 White Tiger Zords, so... $140-$160, roughly? And the consensus seems to be that BBTS may be overcharging, so at Toys R Us the MSRP may be closer to, say, $180.
Assuming the toy, you know, works as it should, $180 does not really strike me as an unfair price for what we are (In theory) getting.
I will join in that I really hope the Zord releases continue going. I am indifferent to Tor, but the Ninja and Shogun Megazords are old favorites and I would love to have them looking this nice!
I really hope not. Hell, if that really is $200, how much would Tor or Serpenterra be then? Tor would end up being $300 while Serpenterra would be $500.
I saw the LEGACY figure collection up on BBTS. Anyone know about these. Seems to be the TV series & first movie's worth of figures.
Tor should be similar in size and price to Titanus, who was $200 (And he, I think, was overpriced. He just does not DO a lot, even if he looks awesome). Seprenterra, is made to scale, would be impossibly huge. Even a 'sane' sized one would be as tall as Generations Metroplex and probably much longer... the resulting figure would indeed be very, very expensive, even if they cut back on parts and articulation.
Pyramidus, likewise, will probably never be worth it to me. All that cash for a toy who's best feature is HIDING the much cooler looking Zeo and Super Zeo zords? Pass.
Thankfully, I have no interest in buying anything Zeo. Ohranger is by far my least favorite Sentai series from the 90s, so I have no desire to own anything from it. Even Zeo itself is not a very good show (I'm currently watching it for the first time since 98). Nevertheless, there better be a truly good reason as to why he is $200 and diecast is not a valid reason.
The thing that sucks is the Dairanger fan in me most own him as soon as I see him on the store shelves. However, you can bet I will be keeping an eye out for sales within the return policy time frame.
a month ago i ordered Pyramidas or more accurate, King Pyramider and i've known that it is a shame you can't see the Zeo/Super Zeo Megazords and only the arms of the Red Battlezord.
paid $154 for it and i searched for the difference of the Super Sentai and PR version and the SS paint job is better and more accurate to the show.
i have Serpenterra i got in the 90s and it is taller than Pyramidas but not by much.
still awesome to look at. the money was worth it.
The Ninja Megazord is an old favorite of mine too. I didn't care much for the Shogun Megazord though. I want Ninja Megazord along with Falcon Zord to get the Legacy treatment as well.
I have no interest in buying anything Zeo either. I did like the show though.
Are they releasing the Legacy zord line in Japan, or is this US only?
As far as I know, this line is being done by Bandai of America for our market in the US. I'm positive if Bandai of Japan was making collector-aimed renditions of Sentai mecha, they would be an offshoot of the Soul of Chogokin line (And unspeakably awesome).
Yeh they would actually be fully articulated and much more intricate. as it stands they are only slightly better looking than the originals.
as in actually being articulated? lol.
man $200 for the legacy thunder megazord is insane considering there's no real improvement to the original.. sure, it definitely looks a little nicer and is a bit more accurate looking. but man, if only they had articulated it.
I'm starting to wonder if the red dragon might actually have a fully articulated neck and tail. Kinda like how Titanus had his articulated neck. That could very well explain at least some of the otherwise outrageous price.
Also, with the dragon being a Megazord sized robot on it's own, this set does have a considerable amount of mass to it compared to some of the past Legacy zords.
I'm just wondering, does adding metal REALLY improve our enjoyment of these things? The original toys didn't have metal so its not really homaging the original toys. Is the Legacy Megazord really an improvement over the 2010 Megazord just because they added a ton of metal? I'd pay less for these if they release them without the metal content tbh. I don't really feel the Legacy Megazord (or any of the Legacy zords) is really £40-£50 better than the more recent offerings (other than it being based on Zyuranger designs and the metal content).
Except we don't know that. Plus, I disagree because I think it is a real improvement just for ditching the stickers and using paint and sculpted details.
Had fun with my light tent.
Metal, used where needed or added unobtrusively, gives a figure a heft and durability that many adult collectors find desirable, myself included. The limited articulation of Zords makes it a bit easier to put metal to work, since there are fewer joint to stress. How much it adds to a figure has to do with personal taste and how it affects the toy: I find that the Legacy White Tiger Zords makes excellent use of it, while the Dragon Zord's is somewhat hindered... Dragon Zord's transformation of splitting in half and balancing on the Megazord makes his feet a poor choice. They should have made some of his chest metal instead: That is either supported by the whole toy, a dedicated stand, or Titanus at all times. No chance of it really impacting balance.
As for paint and details, the Legacy toys enjoy marginally better sculpting and proportions and considerably better paint applications, compared to modern releases. Legacy toys are painted all the way around, no side ignored if it should have color, and most of the paint is perfectly placed (I have seen and heard of defects, but I don't think it's widespread). I've seen reviews, and the in person box, of the recently released Dino Charge Megazord and it is clearly less colorful than it's Sentai counterpart.
Is all of that enough to make these things worth it if you don't care about any of it? Absolutely not, stay away or try to collect the originals if these older designs get your attention (I find a lot of these earlier robots way more interesting than the stuff from the last 5-10 years). I never bought the original toys of these, so the Legacy Line is sort of my chance to get in touch with these classic mechs for the first time.
I find it rather exciting, and a nice change of pace from my Transformers and Gundams.
I feel the legacy megazord is improved from the plastic version for a display piece, I prefer how that metal looks over the grey plastic but as a toy the 2010 is no doubt better (for kids). The dragonzord stand alone is beautiful but still far from optimally designed as a companion piece for legacy megazord (difficulty in combining as the shoulder armour and the weight). Overall I prefer the vintage toys but the legacy items are still welcome.
I hope that the price for the Legacy Thunderzord goes down in price. I really do want to get it, and I'll end up getting it, but it'll be much easier to justify if it's no more than $120.
I agree. It's not like Die-cast is a mark of quality itself. It's basically slag metal good for nothing but toy construction. It throws off balance, leads to paint chipping, and more often than not doesn't feel worth it.
I also hate how the metal isn't painted on the Legacy Megazord, but it's outdated next to the other Legacy figures in a lot of ways.
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