Power Rangers - Toys, Television, and More!

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  1. theestampede

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    Ya, definitely to each their own. I don’t personally care if they scale with monsters nor do I care if they match gundams.

    I personally want something that feels good to play with and is reasonably sized so that auxiliary zords can be combined with it. Too big and it isn’t something I’m going to just pick up and fiddle around with.

    I love city bots. I have the Fort Max reissue, plus all the Titan class city bots that Hasbro have done (except for metroplex and the ark) and the size is great, but they are more on the playset side of things.

    If Hasbro wanted to do giant size carrier zords, that would make sense to me (I would be all over a gigantic pyramidas), but the main show megazord should be something reasonable to handle. For me, a large transformers voyager or old Ultra class would be the ideal size - these are the kinds of mechs that deserve to have play in mind, especially since they transform.
     
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    Are you referring to Kakuranger or MMPR Season 3? Because in MMPR Season 3 they were Erik and Merrick The Barbaric.

    I have no idea how you can not distinguish Monsters of the Week though. They're a vital part of Sentai/PR. BTW, that's not meant to be an offense against you.
     
  3. SPLIT LIP

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    Is that why it's so flimsy?
     
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    I wonder if the zap is going to do any auxiliary zords. At the size they are, I can't even imagine how they intend to do ultrazords.

    They should've just did legacy zords at like, 40-50 dollar price points. Sure, they wouldn't be nearly as premium, but clearly they aren't doing great at high budgets

    What's more, if they did an ultrazord, I could see it being actually reasonable. Axillary zords can be packed together just like they do for retail lines. They could do the spd ultrazord at maybe 100-150, or even haslab. But if they keep doing zords at zap, I'm not sure how far they can actually go. They've only done like 1-2 releases, and 2 are from the same year. What year will we even get later zords?

    I'm wondering if zap is even meant to be a full line rather than experimental,and expected to crash and burn
     
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    I think your prices are a bit off the old Legacy figures were like $50 over a decade ago. Today they would probably be $100 each and they were bricks.

    Also ZAP is on their 3rd release in a 6 month timespan. That is pretty good for a brand new line of pretty detailed mechs, which the Lightning collection design team have never done before. Obviously with this line being so new it is definitely still in its experimental phase but if sales do well enough they could keep on going.

    As for the carrier/aux zords I don’t think those will be too hard to do at retail for a decent price either. If you look at the ZAP Dino and Astro Megazords, the Astro is quite larger than the Dino but they are the same price. That is because the Astro is much simpler in design so less parts count. I could see Titanus going for $160 as well since although he is big he is completely hollow and does not have many moving parts.
    Absolutely no offense taken. It’s just that with watching Power Rangers for 10+ years as a kid with a new monster every week, that is around 500 monsters. They just all blend together after a while.
     
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  6. SPLIT LIP

    SPLIT LIP Be strong enough to be gentle

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    I don't think he was using the word "legacy" to reference the old BOA line, but the term "legacy" as in previous/non-current Megazords in a Generations-style line.
     
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    As @SPLIT LIP said, I don't mean legacy as the old line, but rather as a general term for megazords based on old ones.

    I'm just saying, at 30 they can do current retail megazords. Crank it up to 50, and I don't see why they couldn't do a good megazord l, and I know it isn't extremely common, but of the three, two are well known for breakages at the 160-180 dollar price point within the zap collection

    You argue carrier zords can be done cheaply, sure and maybe titanus is a good example.

    But what about pyramidas?
    Spd carrier zord?
    Brachiosaurus?
    Lost galaxy carrier zords? Tlsome of these carried whole kegazords inside of themselves. Some have multiple!

    They're trying to do these figures at 1/144 scale, and while that's a nice sentiment, if they keep doing this, the figures are going to get huge. I mean, look at how big the astro megazord is.
    The astro megazord is 55 mm to the spd ultrazord is 88 m tall, and that's not discussing width, which is a very different sizing

    I think the 1/144 is silly because what are they going to do about ultrazords? They practically all have to be haslabs at this rate

    But if they scale the zords down, not only do they get cheaper and easier to own, but the carrier zords won't all be freaking massive.

    I'm just saying, we have a long line of zords to get to, and if they're all at this price range I don't know how collectors will survive.

    Of course. The carrier zors might just not be to scale, but then that would ruin the 1/144 claim
     
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    They had something going for them with that original two set each megazord. Too bad they couldn’t figure out proper knee joints.
     
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    TFW the Dino Fury Zords, even though the ratchets and pegs have a possibility of breaking, are still the better value over ZAP simply because of their price and functionality.

    ...this is where we're at with PR, right now? BoA made some hollowed-out junk at times, but man...
     
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    Is wave with Dino thunder black and lost galaxy pink wave 14?
     
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    Got Blue Senturion for $17+ at Target. I would’ve been disappointed at the $34+ they were initially asking for. At most it should’ve gone no higher than $30 but I feel even that’s a stretch. I wouldn’t recommend it at MSRP unless this is your favorite character and you can justify the cost for the unique tooling.

    The sculpt is all new and has good attention to detail with some translucent parts being molded separately and barbell shoulders instead of butterfly joints. This aids a bit in sword and gun-wielding poses to approximate holding either weapon with both hands. Though range could be better. Neck articulation is hindered despite being on a new barbell neck since the neck where it meets the body acts more like a swivel and the barbell up top is very limited. New tooling that doesn’t accomplish much unfortunately. A barbell at the base where the neck meets the body and a hinge where the head attaches to the neck would’ve been a more beneficial implementation of articulation.

    Didn’t realize that this has drop-down hips until later. Despite that, I think scuffing on the thigh armor is unavoidable. I’ve just accepted that this will happen and it already did on my copy. The drop down hips help but I still would’ve preferred if the pelvis armor was cut enough to provide leg range that didn’t need drop-down hips to achieve. As is, the pelvis armor still manages to hinder leg range.

    The sword was already warped out of the box. If the grey plastic used looked more silver or was painted silver, it would’ve looked a lot better. The neck has this marbling going on that silver paint could’ve covered up. The barbell shoulders able to keep the arms more parallel to the body are appreciated. I also like how the feet have swivels directly above them as a cleaner alternative to shin swivels(as to not break the sculpt). However the rest of the new articulation(neck and hips) doesn’t improve as much as I’d expect, which is the same thing that happened with the Ninjetti Tommy that I got last year.
     
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    A lot of the carrier zords weren’t too much bigger than the main Megazords and most of them were just hollow with very little transformations. Others like the Dino Thunder brachiosaurus and Lost Galaxy whale(?) zords are just out. Even the original toy lines just had those include mini figures of the zords since they were stupidly massive in the shows. Plus they never really did anything so those are easy skips.

    If I am being honest I don’t see ZAP going past the Zordon era as that is what has the most nostalgia in the current Pr fan base at large. Other than Zeo, all of the Zords from that era are a manageable size to do at 1/144th scale. And even if they do who cares if they fudge the scale for the massive zords a bit? Transformers CHUG claims to be 1/35th scale relative to the shows but that is far from accurate. Every Titan would be 4 feet tall and Unicron would be the size of the US mid West. Even smaller class figures aren’t perfect show scale but they are close enough.
    Again to each their own, as I look at the Dino Fury zords (even the Sentai Bandai versions) and go “oh those are crap”
     
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    I agree, they should feel free to "fudge things". the problem is that they made a 15 inch tall astro megazord that towers over a mmpr megazord because they chose to make that a selling point. I'd say go ahead if they just made a premium megazord line, but that was one of their greatest selling points. scale. In a premium line. oops.

    I fist off disagree about brachiozord, because I think it'd be awesome to have. ANd more importantly, think it would be possible with smaller zords. If they made zords around the size of the current chug ones, we could easily see a brachiozord that holds all the zords, and the same for many other carriers. It's really just this 1/144 scale thing screwing them over.
    Heck, if we got megazords at lightning collection scale, it would be very easily possible.

    True, transformers claims that they are 1/35, but that's also a claim fudged, often, in what is essentially a very long lived, rebranded line.Like, starting from siege at least, it's been like 5-6 years. 8-9 if you count combiner wars. We're like 3 megazords in, and you can already see the issues, quality and scale wise. At least with the "trashy" chug line, you could buy multiple to replace. The zap line? The fact tht you would have to replace it at all speaks volumes.
    I thought the chug line was trash, and after I bought one, theyre not great, but they're great value for 30. Don't have to buy one, just standing up for it, though I think part of your problem lays more with ryusoulgers design than anything else, and if thats the case, that's a whole other problem.

    I do agree though, this probably won't go beyond the zordon era. Because the next year over is the lightspeed rescue megazord, and doing that 1/144 would be damn near impossible.

    After they end the zap line thogh, I sure hope they do smaller megazords. The dino fury set up is pracctically perfect for the likes of overdrive and dinothunder, with a few changes. Make a 50 dollar mark for the main megazords, than continue doing 30 dollar 2 packs for zords, and then a commander-titan class for bigger zords, as long as they don't try the scale claim again. They could call it carrier class or something. The zord lines just lack any space to work in regardss to class
     
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    Went back to target and Got the silver Megaranger and bike since he was also 16.99

    wtf is going on with this line. Signalman felt great, but this other dx figure feels and looks like trash. The joints are floppy, bending the ab crunch cracked the stomach apart immediately, and the paint is absolutely dreadful. And since it’s completely enclosed, there was no way to check the paint before leaving the store.

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    While I really liked signalman, silver here has really left a sour taste in my mouth. It’s really badly done. Even at half price, I’m really hesitant to dip back in because it feels like gambling with the quality.
     
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    Yeah, apparently we’ve been getting reports of bad qc for power rangers products in general. Unlike other hasbro stuff, bad power rangers qc is more frequent.
     
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    And rumors are saying it's so bad Hasbro has had to scrap an entire production run on some figures and are redoing them.
     
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    I heard they also fired some people too.
     
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    I really worry about Lightning Collection these days. Sooner or later, there will be no more toys for Power Rangers and soon after everyone will forget about Power Rangers,
     
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    Seriously. I used to think my TF interest would be permanent, esp after decades of fandom, but now that Im like 90+ percent through G1 in 3P or MP form, I find my interest waning. The pursuit is part of it. Having stuff to look forward to keeps you engaged.

    Im almost done with Power Rangers, unless they start doing more comic-stuff. The only non-Zordon era shows I watched were Time Force and Dino Thunder. Some Wild Force and Lost Galaxy - but not enough to buy those teams. But I'm all in on the BOOM-exclusive characters.