Heavy/Scratch: PotP Predacons - “De-Combinered”

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  1. Kaijubot

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    All figures are complete! Go to page 3 to see pictures of each in all all modes! Here’s the group in beast, blaster, and melee modes:

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    While I wait on parts to finish my customized Predaking (See my other thread), I decided to start work on a Predacon Set “optimized” (as much as the design allows) for Individual modes, which I felt were compromised for sake of combined mode.

    The Plan
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    -Remove all extraneous combiner kibble
    -Joints modified to allowproper mobility
    -Paint touch-ups + decals
    -Weapon(s) for all bots

    My question to you guys on this board is; Do you like to see in progress type posts? Or would you rather have one huge update showing everything complete? Do you want to know *what* I did or just post the results?

    Or does no one care? ;) 

    Here’s a sneak pic of Headstrong “Phase 1” complete:
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    And his “before” pic:

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  2. Leopard5

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    I wanna see updates.
     
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    This is kind of interesting. I would like to see updates. Do you plan on making him able to combine by having the thighs be combiner kibble?
     
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  5. Kaijubot

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    The thighs and crotch piece (from Divebomb) could be put aside as a “parts-former” piece, but the super tight ratchets and how they’d have to be jury-rigged to reconnect would severely compromise mobility and stability, which the “stock” Predaking does exceptionally well at, but at the cost of individual bots. Also, Ravage’s kibble (who I’m saving for last) might complicate things. So I’m pretty much just going at these with a “bots first” mentality.
     
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  6. Kaijubot

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    Some more picks showing Headstrong Tantrum comparison:
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    And the “new” Headstrong & Tantrum:
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    The knees were modified to properly bend backward (also done to back legs). Stock leg on left with modified leg on right.
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    Bot modes are completely unaffected but I’ll save those pics for the end with weapons and such. ;) 
     
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  7. Dachande

    Dachande Janitor. Moderator TFW2005 Supporter

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    How did you add the joint to the legs?
     
  8. Kaijubot

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    There’s already a ball joint in there, but it stops from bending any further back (which is needed for Beast mode). I just dremeled out a channel that allows it to bend where it needs to. As for the back legs, there’s a bit of plastic that I simply shaved off (a peg on HS, a bit by the joint on T), that allowed them to bend further. Simple, but clean and effective. :) 
     
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    Oh man, that's pretty awesome. Well done!

    I don't mind the combiner parts on the individuals, but will definitely do some work on my set (once I get it) following some of your examples.
    I'm looking forward to seeing what you do for Razorclaw.
     
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    Ask, and you shall receive! Here’s some sneak peeks!

    ***NOT FINAL**
    (Tail is not done yet, and has some minor trim/touch-ups to do)
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    The huge “planks” on his rear/legs are gone! Altering the robot legs from this:
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    To this:
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    Now his bot mode has a separate ankle pivot while still keeping the ankle tilt in the front, given him even *better* posability in robot mode. :) 

    All lion legs have been modded (like the others) for full mobility. He can even do the “cat stride”:
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    Still more to do on him, but I’m awaiting some “things”. ;) 
     
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    This kicks ass - I'd be REALLY interested in detail shots showing the leg modifications, even if it's after-the-fact.

    (But going forward, as you make these changes, taking a ton of photos would be deeply appreciated)

    (also, why does Headstrong still have a rubber band on his face?)
     
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  12. Kaijubot

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    I’ll put together a post with pics of the previous leg joint adjustments.

    As for the rubberband, it’s custom! ;)  (actually forgot to take it off! These were literally fresh from the box!)
     
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    I knew Rampage would be the most invasive of the “combiner removals”. Up to this point, you *could* still combine them with some effort/finagling, but Rampage’s combiner parts were not only screwed in, but glued as well, so instead of a clean removal, they were literally broken off. BUT I’m not here for combiner mode, i here for the individual modes, and The changes speak for themselves!

    Before:
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    After:

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    I could trim down the top of his rear legs/thighs, but the little blasters will be painted up, excusing the height. AFF82F72-DA73-4EA0-8818-A06A326C8A42.jpeg

    Mid-section:
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    The horror! (This will be puttied and painted!)
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    For the front legs, remove this peg:
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    Rear legs, just expand the orange opening on top of his “knees”. (Gita stress mark, but it’ll be painted anyway).

    Back of Beast neck was trimmed down allowing for further upward movement in beast mode, and a flusher look in the chest in bot mode:
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    Tail is still to come! :) 
     
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    This is awesome i like this indeed. I liked to see them in bot mode standing next to each other.
     
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  15. Kaijubot

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    Thanks! I’ll post a group photo in bot mode, once Divebomb is finished!
     
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    They look awesome
     
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  18. Kaijubot

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    Prepare for Divebomb. He’s extensive, and involves the dreaded “pin removal”. So grab a cup of coffee and here we go!

    First off, the legs. I removed this pin:
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    Switched out the thighs and cut off this piece:
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    Also I trimmed this piece (front and back) to allow further ankle tilt:
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    Now when you transform to bot mode, you twist the hip and he has “real” feet that bend the right way. You can still deploy the talons in the (now) back for extra heel support if needed.
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    Next I wanted to place the head forther back (for a more natural bot & bird mode). His default head placement is too far forward:

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    So we knock out this top waist pin:
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    Then pop off the front of chest to expose the head assembly mushroom peg:
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    We drill a hole further back on this assembly:
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    Insert head, reassemble, and now his head is lined up with his shoulders (as it should be) and further to the top of bird mode (aligned with its natural “spine”, as it should be):
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    I trimmed the top of his “backpack” down to the next flat level, giving him better head room (and less backpack).
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    The combiner hip assembly is removed leaving the PERFECT placement for a jet engine/exhaust (or possibly some feathers. I haven’t decided yet)
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    Drill two 5mm holes in the closest to the body round “domes” on the underside of wings. (This area will not interfere with the wings going in/out). And here’s Divebomb:
    (‘KaijubotNation Act-5 Flight Stand’ pictured below is not included) ;) 
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  19. Mindset

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    Great work! They all look so much better, especially Tantrum and Headstrong.
     
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  20. Kaijubot

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    As requested, a group shot in bot modes. Nothing lost in the conversions, only gains. :) 
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    And the Beast modes:
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    Next up is Tails, Weapons, Paint, and stickers.
     
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