Alright now I think we all saw people here that said the elements from the previous movie like events and stuff are just forgotten and not important to the movie after it.Well how about the Allspark shards?One reactivates Jetfire and one revives Megatron,the Matrix from TF2...also repowers Sentinel's spark wich I think it's important to the plot right?lol Even the battle of Chicago from TF3 is mentioned a lot in AOE and affects the events of the movie...maybe even TLK.Now I'm not here to argue with anyone,I just wanted to clear that out...I mean they impact the sequels enough IMO

 

Absolutely zero mention of the Matrix in AOE, did it fall out of OP's chest when he was ambushed by Cemetary Wind?

And where was OP's trailer during AOE?

 

The matrix didn't have to be mentioned as it served no purpose, just because it's not mentioned doesn't mean something happened to it. We may very well see it in TLK since there has been mention of Optimus questioning his leadership and a new prime.

As for his trailer, we saw him ditch it during his rampage in DOTM, now it is possible he could have gone and picked it up or gotten a new one but being on the run with a trailer wouldn't be very efficient.

 

I've stated this repeatedly and am always ignored. You made very good points, Age has all those connections to Dark but the matrix isn't mentioned it doesn't matter if there's no reason to mention it that negates all continuity. That's the problem with how these films are judged a few bads always negate everything else. The whole characters constantly disappear without explanation is beyond exaggerated human characters are dropped because their story is resolved and have no reason being there anymore. Every robot character except Barricade returned in Revenge and all but the twins returned in Dark of the moon which was due to fan backlash and demand. None of the Autobots disappeared in Age they're dead we're pretty much told this, just because some don't like this explanation doesn't mean it didn't happen. The movies have continuity.

Revenge of The Fallen is a very direct sequel to the first movie to the point that it won't make sense if you haven't seen the first. Sam and Mikela's story continues where it left off. The alliance between the Autobots and military is a direct result of the first movie. The termination of sector seven directly effects Simmons leaving him living with his mother and without an actual career. The slifer that transfers the Allspark to him is a direct result of Megatron's death. The last shard Optimus retrieved plays a direct role in the movie when it revives Megatron, which links to his death in the first as does him being at the bottom of the ocean. The blackout from the first is why the public doesn't know of the TF existence which connects to the mid credits scene involving the parents from the first. Sam seeing symbols and slowly unraveling because of it directly links to what happened to captain witwicky in the first. Revenge doesn't counteract anything actually, the plan with the harvester connects to the Allspark and it's not hard to conclude that they intended to use The Allspark to find the matrix.

Dark of the moon also connects to the others. Sam's arc is a logical follow up to how he would emerge from the events of revenge. The world now knows of the TFs as a result of the global message. Sentinel was referenced in Revenge during Sam's breakdown in fact his rambling is about how a space bridge is built and works, actually foreshadowing the story of Dark. The Matrix is used to revive Sentinel. The damage done to Megatron at the end of Revenge drives his entire arc in Dark. It's shown that Neil Armstrong was a sector seven agent and it was sector seven who was behind the moon mission. Simmons is a result of his heroic actions in Revenge. Galloway's fears that the Autobots are the only reason the decepticons remain on Earth is paid off when Sentinel's ultimatum suggests just that. The Autobots being exiled pays off a plot point introduced in Revenge. The Chicago attack and Megatron's death would both play big roles in Age, Optimus's arc in Age was foreshadowed by his ending speech. In fact Age of Extinction culminates most of the plot points the franchise was building up.

 

But even back in G1 the matrix of leadership tended to be forgotten and I'm referring to every episode after the movie. It only seemed that when the plot called for it the matrix is brought into play. But we never thought Rodimus lost it mainly since his appearance was proof of that. Heck even in Prime/RiD the Matrix has gone unmentioned since the last mention it got was back in Prime.

 

TLK really needs to mention a lot of things. I've talked about it already on another thread.

Things like the Allspark, Matrix and the Primes (both Sentinel and The Fallen) need to be back to give us a sense of how the universe works.

AOE had me so paranoid over the continuity and I hope the new writers have ideas that are just as good as some fans.

 

I'm not arguing with you I think you're right there's no reason to mention the matrix if it doesn't play a role in the story. People don't mention something they have every waking moment to make certain others know it still exists that's weird and unusual. Why would optimus mention the matrix to Cade what good does that do, Cade has no idea what it is. Optimus mentioning the matrix in Age of Extinction would be out of place. Your examples apply to pretty much everything in TF if Unicron isn't involved the matrix usually isn't mentioned. You're right you made a very valid point and I agree with you I was just making some of my own.

 

Why exactly, the creators doesn't actually counteract anything the creators can create the TF to be slaves the Allspark can create the first spark the primes can rebel and free their race leading to the fallen rebelling. We never knew where the Allspark came from, this isn't the mess people are making it out to be, we were told this story in G1 only vector sigma was The Allspark.

Also we have no idea how this backstory is going to be told it could be in a very TF Prime way which means all you have to do is show visual cues of the characters. If it's actual flashback scenes (which holy crap that will be awesome if true) then you require more detail and past references. Still I wouldn't be too concerned it was already confirmed that both the quintessons and primes will be explored they are combining the two back stories not replacing.