Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by Cheem The Rup, Sep 22, 2018.
I think it's my fault that the thread's like this...
Might as well post some relevant stuff.
(Dude's never gonna get to sit on the table due to how big he is.)
Speaking of Blackout I'd like a Bigger one of those too.
The existing one is way to titchy for my taste. Also the Movie Scale Charge are total monkey shine so I wouldn't pay a huge amount of attention to them as the closer you look at the more inconsistancies there is - and sometimes multiple sources from the same Movie disagree too - and especially between Movies. I have seen info saying Blackout is more like 60 foot tall. which make sense considering how big the vehicle he turns into is - even if he compacts a lot as Starscream does - I still feel there is some desire to make the troops smaller or at least similar size to Megatron. So they have artificially shrunk some of them.
Isn't that Grindor?
Just showing him off
Well Actually Grindor is something to bring up. I suspect they didn't change the CGI model's default size when changing Blackout to Grindor - but because of how Grindor is shown in ROTF as being Much bigger than Optimus (mostly) they had to say he was bigger - even though by then info downplaying Blackout's size was being put about - but the VERY early Info for the 2007 Movie has everyone much larger (especially the bigger bots). If you look at the way Blackout is shot in the Base Attack he seems very large to me and also in the scene he's in the street, or the body on the Carrier deck. There is plenty of scenes the size looks larger than he would be as he's now often listed - and like I said before being over 50 foot tall makes more sense with the sheer size of his alt mode.
I know there were some listed discrepencies with Optimus' size found when people got a tape measure out an measured the door or windows of a real Peterbuilt I think he came out about 45 foot tall and that has since been down played a bit.
I suspect some of these discrepencies happened as the 2007 Movie was trying NOT to use mass-shifting but they gave up on that with the Arcee Sisters initially and then as time progressed more of it crept in - so that allows whoever is deciding these sizes to fiddle the relative sizes of the robot modes to fit some other preferences outside what they would be sized at without the mass shifting.
Brawl/Devastator's appearance in the 2007 Movie is so blink and you miss it - but I think there is a bit of variability in his size too almost from shot to shot - I wouldn't be surprised if he's being resized simply to fit in the backplate they filmed. I think logically and in terms of visual consistancy Bumblebee should be sized smaller than Ironhide and Ratchet and Bigger than Jazz - and that is mostly how he's shown. But there is a few times Bee seems sized more like Ironhide, which would make his car kibble impossibly huge.
I think this is why so many people were just nervous about Brawl 3rd party toys seeming to be about the same size and Optimus - the way he's shot makes him seem so big that many people's natural inclination is to think he's much bigger than Optimus - even though they have little direct interaction (if any), and the truck isn't a hugely different size to the Tank alt mode. But a lot of people thought "Shouldn't he be bigger?"
Just as I was suggesting that Blackout should be a lot larger than Optimus... but then I guess I can always just use a smaller Optimus with the Blackout we have.
Yeah, I lost brain cells hearing people complaining about the WJ/BM Brawls being too short.
I hope we do end up with a bigger Blackout, but I doubt Wei Jiang would go to all that effort to make the same thing again, and Black Mamba wouldn't do as many improvements as we got with Hide Shadow.
Wow, the lights are perfectly positioned
OK guys, so what is the final verdict. Black Apple or Black Mamba?
Black Apple Prime, bar none.
Yeah it’s black apple for me, if ShowZ ever gets it to me
They still haven't received their next batch?
i thought Showz said they will receive the orders tomorrow
So they should get their second batch of this figure tomorrow?
as nature intended
Does this require any additional modification?
Looks like Terry's got them in stock! I just bought it, but this is my first time buying from him, does he have a good reputation? Fast shipping? How long do items take to arrive for you guys?
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