Ouch - Transformers" sequel would be by far the worst-reviewed $400M movie ever.

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by Motor_Master, Jun 29, 2009.

  1. Dormamu

    Dormamu I am Broot.

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    The movie is a facepalm of fun.

    I watched it because I like the Transformers (I wouldn't be a member on this board if I didn't). I watched it because I had high hopes that it would be as action filled as the previous movie. I liked it because it did live up to that expectation.

    At the same time though, I agree with the assessments. I'm not going to overanalyze it though. Will I buy the DVD? Definitely. Will I cringe through the same scenes? Yep. Maybe that makes me a hypocrite, but its hard to support something I like without taking the bad with the good.
     
  2. DrawerDemon

    DrawerDemon DOOOOOM!!

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    What if I'm a fan who went with high hopes and ended up hating it? I'm a critic and a fan! Am I disowned?

    Yay. Great. We're gonna be the fanbase that finally gives Hollywood an excuse to throw plot and continuity out the window. "Hey, why are we paying people to manage that stuff? TF2 made $440 mil!"

    As I see it, though, if you stop crafting story, characters, etc., you're just making explosion porn. It's really high-end junk food for your brain.

    But, making $400 million doesn't change a single line of awful dialogue. I'll say it again: Escapism, popcorn movie, summer blockbuster: NONE of these things excuse a job done sloppily.

    Whatever. I'm glad it's pouring money into TFs, cause I'll always be a fan of the toys.

    BUT I'm also a fan of movies. I like the craft, I like the medium, I like all the ways you can say a thing on a 40-foot screen. That part of my brain wants Mike Bay to have to watch the My Little Pony Movie until his f&%$ing retinas detach.
     
  3. Deceptichage

    Deceptichage Decepticon Land Pirate

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    If the returns are great, I would love for Bay to put in an easter egg in TF3 that shows an early article of TF2 being reviewed pooryl.
     
  4. grimmlock

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    well put. To be very honest, not only do i think the story was bad but so was the character developement of the transformers. There was a bit more than in the first but still it seems like Bay threw in robots just to throw them in. The movie shouldn;t be called transformers, it should be called the witwhicky chronicles.
     
  5. Tell_Story

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    I don't think the movie is really that good, but I'll still watch it. People think that if a critic rates a movie low that they're saying it's a bad movie. Saying that it's a bad movie never equates that people will not watch it. People watching it doesn't make it a great movie.

    I agree with the critics I think this movie leaves a lot lacking. I might watch it again I might not. I don't think I'll run out to see the third movie opening night like I did because the immaturity has finally gotten to me. I've never watched another Bay movie and I will not go out to see other movies he puts out unless it's Transformers. Obviously it's not because I like Bay, it's because I like Transformers.

    I've had this experience before it was called The Matrix Reloaded and I have not seen the third part of that Trilogy nor do I plan on it. But this movie is doing well based on the appeal of Transformers and entertainment not because it's any good. Which I wish it were.

    I think Bay has a chance to do well at the BO and at the same time make a MATURE movie. I don't ask that he do it for the ratings, for the critics or even the fans. I ask that he do it for the sake of making a really good movie. The fans will love the movies just the same.
     
  6. Usagi-Prime

    Usagi-Prime FIRRIB

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    To me this article is saying that american audiences are growing more ignorant or something. Anyway, I feel the 1st TF movie was far better because the humour was classier, more autobot time, if there were lots of human scenes it would be human & robot interaction, etc. I didn't feel disappointed with ROTF just because Michael Bay was directing it, but because of the actual film qualities. I think it's the same with Critics, they share a lot of the same views that I see here on these boards. This review link really just sounded like a bunch of BS.
     
  7. TankRizzo

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    Everyone is acting like critics are all a bunch of snooty people who look down on anything this side of Casablanca, but take a look around. Sites like AICN that's largely geared towards and run by...for lack of a better word, nerds, and they're ripping the movie apart.

    They're not watching and reviewing it as "an experience", they're reviewing it as a movie and rating it against movies in the same vein. As a movie, ROTF is NOT good. A "rollercoaster ride of special effects and explosions" only gets you so far, if it doesn't work as a whole it diminishes the greatness of the single scenes.

    The people who love this movie I think have a case of not being able to see the forest for the trees. Judging the movie as a whole vs. "OMG, did you see optimus prime kick ASS in the forest???". Yeah, that scene was great, but the movie, beginning to end doesn't stack up against a Dark Knight or Iron Man.
     
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    DrawerDemon DOOOOOM!!

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    Some critics are excellent.
    They've been to film schools, journalism schools, probably made a few indie films themselves. They have a better-than-average knowledge of what it took to get a film made, and generally enjoy movies across all genres. (By the way, Ebert's one of this kind. Except he's also insane.)

    Then there's any dumbass with the brain cells to update a website. (Actually, Ebert's like this, too)

    Remember, just as not all moviemakers are created equal, neither are all critics.

    "Profitable" don't make it "Good."
     
  9. Rookbartley

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    At what point was the Dark Knight not a "rollercoaster ride of special effects and explosions"??? Oh wait, I forgot, it had Christian Bale talking in that raspy voice...damn, it's right up there with Ben Hur.
     
  10. Lord Megatron

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    I went to this movie expecting giant robots fighting each other. I got it. I'm happy.
     
  11. omegagoalie

    omegagoalie Cybertronian Puckstopper

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    I was thinking the same thing.
     
  12. MrSoundwaveGuy

    MrSoundwaveGuy I've made a huge mistake

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    This. All of this
     
  13. First Gen

    First Gen I AM

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    I saw it twice just like I did the first one so I could be sure of my opinion.

    This film made the first one irrelevant. Action great, everything else sucked.
     
  14. twichy

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    most normal people i've talked to about the normal people i talked to said it was ******ed... so my hope is that people will remember the experience and not bother for the third movie. that would be so awesome that they make a crap load of money this time and then for the third one there is a huge drop off in interest.
     
  15. Solrac333

    Solrac333 G1 got it right!

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    Suck my popsicle, critics.
     
  16. grimmlock

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    agreed. Here's one thing that bothered me in an interview with either bay or the writters or both. they said they listened to the fans and went more into the mythology of transformers. I'm sorry but what mythology were they looking at because these two movie don't tell the mythology. IMo it's reinventing a new mythology. I know people are gonna say wee you don't want it the same as the original, and no you don't but if you look at movies like spider-man and iron-man who did not reinvent the wheel. all they day was modernize it and what great movies they turned out to be.
     
  17. robvega214

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    The forest scene did kick ass didnt....
    based on all the criticism....n reviews....its sounds like G1 all over again .......:thumbs2: 
     
  18. Optimus_Prowl

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    Talked to an independent filme director about the movie last night. And surprisingly enough we discussed the story. He was surprised at how linear, and confusing it was at the same time. He said it felt like real war time, where you know there is a set goal (In this movie's case stopping the Fallen) but there is still a fog of other things, stories, and people happening along the way. Hell there are even major casualties. I agreed with him on just about every point.

    Also I keep hearing people talk and post about how many plotholes were in the film, but have yet to see anyone post an actual list or focus on them directly. The movie seemed pretty except for a few random entrances and exits by bots, but again this mimcks the fog of war in that, while fighting you're not gonna be paying great attention to who's coming and going, it's just confusion.
     
  19. SPLIT LIP

    SPLIT LIP Be strong enough to be gentle

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    That's. The. Freaking. Point.

    Movie is a new series, not a G1 done over, but Transformers from scratch, just Like Animated and the rest.
     
  20. Turnpike

    Turnpike Brawl is my bee-otch

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    This just proves that critics are nothing more than hired trolls. Haters paid to spew their angry, thoughtless tripe across all movies.