Original Generation 1 Score to be released on vinyl on March 9 2018

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Sol Fury, Apr 12, 2016.

  1. Greenspan

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    Anyone still has hopes for a CD?

    Will Toyfair this weekend be good for us who wants more TFs music?

    Let's hope someone at Hasbro cares enough to make this happen one day.
     
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    In the meantime you can enjoy the tracks in digital form via these organized playlists from YouTube. Much more convenient than a CD seeing as how you can listen to them through the Youtube app on your smartphone. You can even listen to them in your car speakers from your phone if your car is bluetooth enabled (or you have a bluetooth kit for your car).
     
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    ...i.e. folks with real stereos are SOL...
     
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    Sol?
     
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    S**t outta luck.
     
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    I have a feeling this comes down more to licensing and what was agreed upon. It's possible there's some contract in place which prevents the music from being released on CD or sold digitally.
     
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    Most likely.

    But short sighted from Hasbro's part.

    It's not just TFs, it's also G.I. Joe music, Inhumanoids, Visionaries, JEM, Spiral Zone, etc.

    Hasbro should have a small department (1-2 employees) dedicated to old niche IPs and keep them alive by curating them with products aimed to preserve posterity.
     
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    Sometimes things are more complicated than they appear to the public. There's a lot of licensing issues that go on with movies / soundtracks etc that you can't even begin to imagine. My friend works for IMAX, and I was told that I wouldn't believe the number of issues they go through trying to get a movie released in a country only to have someone else file for a licensing trademark for it months prior. Then, the movie studio has to pay the individual(s) off just to get it released in that market since the license / rights have already been taken.

    I'm sure Hasbro wouldn't have had the foresight to think people 35+ later would be interested in getting a soundtrack to their most popular shows. The fact that we have anything official is probably short of a miracle.
     
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    I've worked in the business so I know all to well how much of a pain in the a** these licensing issues can be.

    That being said, Hasbro has a market cap of 12.3 billions, with B.

    A good chunk of their operating income comes from very old franchises like Transformers and My Little Pony.

    Their entertainment future is almost ALL based on their old properties.

    I'm trying to make the argument that, since Hasbro's success and future is so dependent on these old franchises, they could easily justify to the share holders the expense of buying out any loose ends in the rights and licensing department.

    Ex : If they don't own M.A.S.K., Centurions, Sky Commanders, Silerhawks, etc. a 100%, why not buy the remaining stakes and go full on with it?

    Blade Runner rights were a mess and Warner Bros finally put money on the table and settled everything for good.

    I'm not saying they should buy every single IP outright, but there are some with tremendous potential and just ache to be brought to life again.

    I'm looking at you M.A.S.K. :) 
     
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    You definitely bring up a strong point here. Hasbro really should spend some of that cash to safeguard those licenses. I do wonder if they've tried that route before, but some of the folks who own the licenses don't want to budge based on principles etc... or they just want to stick it to Hasbro for some bad blood they've got with them (ex: Anne Bryant)
     
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    Bad blood, old feuds and legal disputes can always be settled through the mighty dollar.

    My theory is Hasbro could settle any and all rights but choses not to.

    I assume there is nobody within the company championing the benefits of curating old and discarded IP's. What might seem to be worthless now, could be worth millions down the road.

    There is also the inescapable truth that old cartoons are work of arts. Plain and simple. Safeguarding everything about them is worthwhile in of itself even if it doesn't generate revenue in the near future.

    My point is this: As many of these creators (music composers, script writers, animators, designers, voice actors, etc.) are still thankfully with us, it would make sense to secure all available assets before they disappear with their creators.

    Ex: Most of all the Beast Wars packaging artwork disappeared with the closing of the Cincinnati office. Reassembling them now would be a colossal, and expensive, endeavor. Hence, we have no products, (art books, t-shirts, stickers, mugs, etc.) with the great Beast Wars artwork.

    And Beast Wars single-handedly saved the Transformers franchise. Safeguarding all the assets concerning it WAS relevant.

    Final though. This weekend's Toyfair 2020 is proof that Hasbro's future is based on old material. Next to no modern Transformers character are present in toy form. They're releasing Ghostbusters toys and props from the 1984 movie.

    I say somebody at Hasbro should take this "curating" old IP's more seriously.
     
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    But wouldn't license holders also benefit from a release? Like Ford and Kinder would need to be involved in all revenue of their theme and they also deserve that. I really need a complete soundtrack. This one was nice, but most of the songs I expected are not even present. So, I'm not fully satisfied. It's more like an appetizer to me, or like a demo. Or in other words: the itch still needs scratching.
     
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    Absolutely. If Hasbro cared about putting everything in order, they would engage in win-win discussions with everyone involved.

    Like I said above, money is not the issue. Hasbro has the cash and these rights issues are not that expensive.

    I honestly think it's about having one, or a few employees, in house that have a cohesive view of the big picture and explain it to the big brass.

    Ford, Kinder, Floro Dery's TF:TM movie art, old IP's art and development material, artwork, music, etc. etc.

    They need the archive department to actively secure these old assets before they truly get scattered to the four winds.

    A few years back, it was possible to purchase the TFs G1 and ARAH G.I. Joe entire series on Vimeo.

    Why can't we anymore?

    How about purchasing Spiral Zone, M.A.S.K., Jem, C.O.P.S., Inhumanoids, Visionairies, Centurions, Sky Commanders, etc. etc. etc.

    How about buying the music of those shows?

    Those of us who grew with these shows have the interest and the cash. The whole retro vibe is still very strong and will be for many years.

    Why not capitalize on it on every front and saving it all for posterity at the same time?
     
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    one thing id kill for is all the commercial animation that was done, to be put on dvd in a quality level picture.
     
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    I've got one the first pressing soundtrack on vinyl, but can't remember which version it is. The package is still sealed...does anyone know if there is a way to tell if it is Megatron or Optimus colors without opening? Thanks!
     
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    I believe the Optimus version has a small red dot sticker somewhere on the outside of the sleeve.
     
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    Interesting...I was 99% sure I had the Optimus version but no sticker anywhere.