Optimus Prime should become Nemesis Prime in the next movie

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  1. Bass X0

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    With this "Kill the Decepticons! Kill the humans! I killed a human and it felt great!" attitude he has now, Optimus Prime should fall to the dark side. Grimlock will become leader of the Autobots and has to decide whether Optimus Prime is worth saving at all. Meanwhile, Galvatron has his own seperate agenda.
     
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    lol this is good

    its possible but i feel like the nemesis prime already existed in movieverse and was killed off by galvatron in his infancy...

    idk if you can do that since Movie-Prime is pretty much unstoppable.
     
  3. Nemesis Scar

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    I must kill all the decepticons.

    No, optimus. You are the decepticons.
     
  4. galvatron88

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    It would be cool see frank welker and peter cullen saying at same time:
    Let's destroy Earth!,or something like that.
    But if this come true galvatron is going to think:
    First,the Fallen,later,Sentinel,Then,Lockdown,and now...
    WHEN I WILL BE THE MAIN VILLIAN!!!
     
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    Nemesis Prime sort of was in Age of Extinction.
    Galvatron was originally intended to look like Optimus Prime but Megatron's presence warped the design. Had Joshua and KSI had their way, the black and silver Freightliner would have turned into a similarly coloured version of Optimus Prime. Hence, Nemesis Prime.

    Granted, it's the most "sort of" of sort ofs.
     
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    No, that is the most awful idea I have ever heard of and if Hasbro ever agreed to a freakin story line like that I am done with it.
     
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    You know, I had a feeling at one point the Argosy could be a sort of 'Reverse Convoy' type character. And he kind of was.

    That was one part of the movie that I thought was really cleverly handled, the way they explained why he looked the way he did but had an Optimus-like alt mode. I enjoy the perverseness of stuff like that lol
     
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    That's...actually not that bad of an idea, honestly :/

    It'd definitely be different, for sure-and what the franchise really needs is some different. Plus, I hate seeing this wholesome Jesus-allegory Optimus Prime-I wanna see him be a dick.

    Maybe switch it up, though-Optimus defects from the Autobots, and goes off on his own quest to kill the Decepticons since he's sick of hearing the rest of the group call him out on his murderous tendencies. And instead of Grimlock, make it a talking Bumblebee. That provides the emotional aspect, as he has to contemplate what Prime taught him and whether or not his mentors words still ring true, as well as mature from his rebellious teenager attitude. Grimlock can just be the second-in-command or something.
     
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    Nope. After already having Sentinel Prime being a bad Prime, we don't need yet another bad Prime, much less it being Optimus. That, and after already killing & resurrecting him, I'd hope they avoid the next obvious cliche: that of course being turning him "evil" for 3/4 of a movie.
     
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    Movie Megatron wasn't going to stand for a repeat of the 'Nemesis Prime' episode from Transformers: Prime.

    But Animated Megatron, now there's an inspiration.
     
  11. Nemesis Scar

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    Seeing as how Optimus already has killed more than his fair share of sentient life, I'd think that he's already begun to slip.

    However, I just can't imagine why the Creators would want a maniacal transformer even more maniacal. It seems somewhat counterproductive to turn somebody that crazy and with that much of a arsenal evil, instead of just manipulating them or your purposes.

    Of course, we could always have a corrupted Knight take on the moniker and appearance instead.
     
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    Especially since we just had Megatronus Prime before that.
     
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    Ummm no...just...just no...
     
  14. jAaMbot800

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    I want it to happen. It's an awful idea, but I want to see people bending over backwards to rationalize and justify it.
     
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    Here we go again, 'Movie Prime is evil, G1 is the best'. Does G1 account for all actions of every continuity? No. Optimus Prime has been pushed to the edge by these silly Earth creatures. He sought to protect us from the Decepticons. Silly Earth things, have killed, Leadfoot and Ratchet, brutally wounding Optimus as he narrowly escaped Mexico City. Once he saw Ratchet's head being smeltered by KSI, ALL of Optimus patience for the humans had gone...!!!!

    Why would he want to protect us for killing his friends? He may leave the civilians alone as they have not done any harm, but Attinger and KSI? Come on, man! Give Movie Prime a break. You heard the aggression for KSI once he had seen Ratchet's head.
     
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    There really isn't anything left to imply that Optimus enjoys violence, especially with his newfound respect for humanity at the end if aoe. To say he's evil is like saying rescue bots Optimus isn't evil enough. The bayverse is a violent universe and the heroes have to exercise their violence. Using "he was evil all slong!" Kind if ruins Prine's entire arc in aoe. Unless we're looking at the "Bay Optimus is a psycho killer lololol." Argument again...
     
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    I don't know if you realize it, but you're trying to justify an indiscriminate hatred of the human race that Movie Optimus doesn't even have as far as I know(I haven't seen AoE).
     
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    I was hoping Galvatron would go retrieve the bodies/heads of The Fallen and Sentinel Prime and combine/rebuild them to create Nemesis Prime.
     
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