I've always seen this get debated on if Galvatron considers himself still Megatron just using a different name or if he's a new bot entirely.

In the movie, apparently, there was a scene where Galvatron revealed his true name: Megatron to Hot Rod but it didn't make it in, and quite a few seem to regard Megatron and Galvatron as the same.

Optimus "That's because I know you too well, Galvatron."

My take on it, whatever was left of Megatron died when Galvatron took his plasma bath and came out completely insane. But some of Megatron return, ironically when Optimus came back as seeing his old nemesis brought Megatron back to the surface a little bit.

 

In all these years, and I apologize to anyone that may be offended by this, I have never seen a debate saying they are 2 different “people” that had much legs to stand on

and here’s why…..

….Even if we discount this Possible line that may or may not have existed Galvatron clearly identified himself too hot rod as the former Megatron with a different line

“ first Prime than Ultra Magnus and now you,
It’s a pity you Autobots die so easily or I might have a sense of satisfaction

It’s right there playing to here, Only one person can we claim to any of those actions

and I know a lot of people like to bring up as a counter the dialog between Magnus and Galvatron when he arrives in earth , But that dialogue came off more as grandest speech I’m referring to one in the third party as a way of introduction to his new name….at least to n

My take on it, nothing of Megatron died……. Not even after the plasma bath may have made himlose his sanity

My take, Unicron did not just rebuilt his body but rejuvenated his “Personality circuits” the Equivalent of a teenager once again

His mind and persona were reduced to what they were like maybe even long before he started the war

He was a young man again as if he had been through the fountain of youth and came out with all the drives and shortcomings that tend to come with early age

And then the plan is my birthday and it’s damage, the combination of these events not only left him insane but also left him very ashamed of many of the mistakes he made as Megatron

But there is no indication that the persona of Megatron died……. in fact if it had there would’ve been nothing left for prime to help with the matrix

 

Starscream: "Megatron? Is that you?"
Galvatron: "Here's a hint!"

 

Definitely the same bot. I think when Unicron molded Megatron's old body it rewired his circuits.

 

Thought this was about going to be a thread about comparing the various portrayals of Galvatron and whether he should be considered a separate character like in IDW or a continuation of Megatron like the G1 toon et. al.

Ah, well.

 

My take on it has always been that as Megatron was still alive when Unicron reformatted him into Galvatron, they're one and the same.
The other cons were dead, so Cyclonus, Scourge, Sweeps, are new beings. Unicron used the fallen Decepticon corpes as raw materials.

Galvatron is Megatron but with all his attributes cranked up to 11; firepower, strength, insanity...

 

Same. Cause personally I prefer if they were separate characters cause they have such distinct traits. Megatron as the sophisticated bully & Galvatron as the rage-filled maniac. Atleast that's more fun to me.

 

If we're sticking to the G1 movie/toon, Unicron clearly makes a deal with Galvatron for a new body; when Megatron refused initially, Unicron didn't format him into a new person anyway, he tortured him until Megatron acquiesced.

I feel like if Unicron was just going to make a new entity, he would have done it and not bothered bargaining with Megatron.

Getting a plasma bath obviously gave him some manner of brain damage, but he's still the same entity.

 

Yet another example

 

Such distinctive traits?

Not sure I would agree with that but the way I saw it Megatron more sophisticated bully trait Would have been something he developed over millions of years

It’s easy to envision a much younger Megatron being more reckless and full of rage

yep

 

It us just a name. And in dome cotinuities, Megatron, and in others they are separate characters.

 

I didn’t like the ‘86 Movie, so I pretty much ignore it and S3. I’m a big fan of the tech spec bios, though, so I always considered Galvatron a separate entity that coexisted with Megatron for a very long time.

 

I think it’s like regeneration with the Doctor. Each regeneration have different personalities, but are the same person.

 

I always thought Galvatron was still Megatron at the core, but with a new lack of restraint (and later, lava-bath induced insanity). Galvatron may be a new color and turn into a new vehicle mode, but it's still Megatron's ambition and evil underneath that fancy shell. I like to think that's how Optimus doesn't need any introduction to Galvatron in the G1 cartoon after his resurrection. Prime knows his enemy well enough that he can recognize him, no matter what form or name he takes.

 

In the early scripts Galvatron was intended to be taller than Megatron, matching the toy scale.
So the logic is clearer, he's "grown bigger" in ambition greed, power and size
Like the evolution of Charmeleon into Charizard in Pocket Monsters, same consciousness but larger more powerful body.

 

Honestly, your best case to argue that Megatron and Galvatron are different is when Galvatron went insane. But even then I wouldn't call that loss of identity, he still knew who Optimus was personally in the Return of Optimus, its just that Galvatron was too insane to really be rational. But even Astrotrain says they're the same guy.

The real argument I feel has always been have Cyclonus and Scrouge always been (insert whoever you believe they were), or were those guys dead by the time they reached Unicron? But Galvatron was always Megatron to the core, insane or not.

 

I've heard the reason for Cyclonus and Scourge's confusing identity is because the script never specifies which Decepticons got tossed into space besides Megatron.

 

Because Cyclonus Scourge and their fleets were intended in early scripts to be the Life Spark's of deceased ancient Decepticons inhabiting bodies forged from scrapmetal.
Later revisions into Decepticon wounded cast adrift, didn't change that the Unicronian villians were already named and written as unrelated characters by that point.

 

Unicron does refer to them as "a new body, and new troops to command" and not "new bodies for you and your troops" so I would assume that they were indeed new beings. I believe recent intrepretations of that story specify that the seekers and insecticons were all dead by the time Unicron came across them, so they were basically just empty shells.

 

Megatron just got a new body. But as I've said before, I've come to look at what happened to the other Decepticons as beeing similar to what happened to Rhinox, Silverbolt, and Waspinator in Beast Machines. It's still their spark/laser core/life essence (or whatever you want to call it), but personality wise they were basically new characters. The only difference is that we eventually saw all three revert back to their previous personas in Beast Machines. However in the original cartoon, the reformatted Decepticons change was permenant.