Ocular Max Hellion (Cliffjumper)

Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by Devastator21, Sep 30, 2017.

  1. LazyAza

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    July 18th. Which makes me wonder if some earlier copies will be available at tfcon.
     
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    Thank you for the side by side. This sold me on Hellion for sure.
     
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  4. Haydenite

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    Didn't realise that Toros back was the same size as his chest !! Love Toros front, but I think hellion is the one I need more !!
     
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    Good god....that backpack comparison...:confused: 
     
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    Backpack aside, I think Toro is the more accurate overall in bot mode. The head sculpt is definitely closer to the toon, as are the chest, shoulders, arms... I know the alt mode isn't 'chibi', but neither is MP Bumblebee so Hellion wouldn't fit my collection. Happy that Toro is a little cheaper as well. That's not to say I don't like Hellion, but in this case I think I have made the right decision given how I display my figures. That backpack is a bit of an eyesore though...
     
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  7. GeneralLeeSpkng

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    I'll probably end up with both. As usual. Sigh
     
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    I just can't get over that feeling that Toro's backpack is unsecure. It just looks unfinished and bothersome when you see that windbshield. Which is the part that I feel makes it look unsecure. I also don't like the way it all flips up to reveal the mini chest. It's a good idea, just poor exicution. Like they half assed it. I'm glad I went with this guy instead. Out of all the versions of cliffjumper, I think this looks the best. Looks like it does exactly what it's supposed to.
     
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    Amazing the way the rear window flips inside out and becomes the back. But the video actually makes me hate the waist more because now I can see better that it's not only thin front to back but it actually tapers in on the sides so that very little of it, just the center, meets with the hip. This now means that part looks bad from every angle.
     
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  10. peddlerofwine

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    Hmm... I like both figures, but I ended up buying XTB's. Despite the backpack, I like everything else about him. I might get the black Hellion, though.
     
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    Yeah, gonna need both in hands to decide on this one, maybe keep both, maybe sell one. Just wish they would keep the eyebrow red like the testshot on the MMC one.
     
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    Mine snaps in just fine and stays there. Not sure where that feeling's coming from. Haven't seen any reports of loose backpacks.
     
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    Perhaps I should have said face sculpt, which is definitely closer to the toon. I hadn't seen the helmet from that angle and I'll grant you that the position of Hellion's horns and the shape of the head do look more accurate, but head on I still think Toro is closer to the G1 animation model images I've seen.
     
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    I think if they used the darker grey for the waist to match the crotch area it wouldnt stand out so much.
     
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    MMC: Cliffjumper
    XTB: Attempted Cliffjumper
     
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  16. XXLMagnus

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    Fuck why does such an iconic character get such half-baked attempts?! ...
     
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    Yes. Excuses can be made about proportions and engineering due to transformation, etc. But there's not really an excuse for messing up the head sculpt. A simple eye test in the design phase will do wonders. If you put any kind of effort at all into getting the head sculpt right, people will tend to forgive some minor flaws with the rest of the figure.
     
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    I think your term of "half-baked attempts" is more of you being an arm chair coach. Shit is hard and I'm not going to even pretend I would have to knowledge to make any of these. Especially considering some people want one aesthetic and other people want another and others don't care and just want cool toys.

    One company does a real car, but has a fake chest to a appease those cartoon fans.
    Another does an a different direction going for that short version of a car.
    SOMEONE is going to be sacrificing something.

    Because of this, everyone has to figure out a different direction for engineering also. They try to find the best route in a limited time to make a toy they think will sell. Both companies seem to have their fans on their version of Cliff.
     
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    Ok. Ocular Max Hellion for me. Waist isn’t an issue for me. Just gotta wait for the release date.
     
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  20. DashCourageous

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    Xtrans FTW! The anatomy alone gets it.