Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by excelhedge, Dec 6, 2016.
Are they teasing the return of the Witwickeys in future movies?
More likely the motto is going to be the "Theme" of the movie. I honestly really like the reference.
Witwicky motto - probably pure nostalgia. No intent to foreshadow whatsoever.
Maybe it's completely intended. After all it was Sams ancestor that quoted it, and the witwickys claimed it as their own. Maybe Archibald witwicky (think that's his name) only started using the motto after hearing about it through some form of interaction in the past between whoever Anthony Hopkins is or represents, as following his encounter with megatron in the ice, he would have been a very important person for someone connected with the transformers to meet with.
So yes I say that it's a very intentional and clever way of bringing the franchise full circle and bringing Sam and the old cast fully back into the films.
Fun fact; knight's symbol also has writing that starts/ends with ''...without a victory...'' in Latin.
Considering how big of a line that was in the original film, it is probably more than just a passing reference. Most likely doesn't mean we'll be seeing Sam pop up but maybe we'll get some more info on Archibald or something.
I think it's more of a reminder that this is still in the same universe, sadly not a lot of people get this, it was a little refference to the previous movies that to me showed that they still care for the past.
Nulla iactura, nulla victoria
How epic would've that been, had it been seen in the theater!
That's not what it says at all.
I know that and that's not what I was saying lol. Was just saying No Sacrifice No Victory. My point is I think the Witwicky motto stems from the saying on the artifact here. The witwicky motto was probably a shorter more condensed rework of the motto on the artifact. Where as the rumor of Laura's character possibly being a decent of Merlin, the Witwicky family may very well have also descended from one of the many Knights of the Round Table and as time went on, the Motto wording "changed" but still means more or less the same thing. No Sacrifice no Victory.
I don't think it was teasing anything, but goddamn was it appropriate.
It says "non victoria sine sacrificio", according to Google Translate.
But an accurate translation is "victoria non sine sacrificio", so is this inaccuracy or creative freedom?
non victoria sin sacrificio means
no victory without sacrifice. Which is the same thing as "No Sacrifice no Victory". As I've said lol. Over time the motto has just been reworked/reworded to mean the same thing. So the Witwicky motto has importance.
I like that they brought this quote back.
That said, If they can convince Shia to come back as unlikely as it would be, I'd love to see him go full punished mode.
I could see him come back for the Bee movie
He'll be back
Who could be the sacrificial lamb, then?
If be cool, is the knight Witwicky ancestor could be none other than Lancelot.
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