Newage H27W Conquest & H28 Octavian (armored Ultra Magnus)

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  1. XBurner071

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    Magnus and OP looks excellent. I wish NA would be able to release these guys before the year ends.(More so on UM because i like him more than Prime but whichever comes first i will still buy:) )
     
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    Mags for sure and Optimus looks good but light of justice 2.0 looks really good. Better proportions n just looks alive
     
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    Wow, those inner robot arms + hands on top of the armored-up torso are baaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
     
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    Yeah man and have you seen the back?
     
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    Hmm, I like it but it’s a bit too similar to the MS one that I just bought. Not sure it’s worth buying to me.
     
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    So the windshield hole is so UM can access the matrix through his exterior chest, which is a pretty cool feature. I'm going to assume 99% of people displaying UM in bot mode will do so with the white Op integrated, which means the windshield cut it not an issue, which is why they decided to do it probably, they certainly didn't have to go that extra mile... and it's not an issue in truck mode. So when you say deal breaker, you mean it's a detail that 99% of people won't be seeing, and even if you did pull the mostly useless white guy out, on a small figure, on a complex looking toy no less, is not really *that* glaring.

    I'll be honest, I've never cared for UM or any of the movie Autobots (the Decepticon baddies are way cooler, so I'll buy those if/when they come out) so I won't be picking him up but thus far he is by far the most aesthetically pleasing compared to MS/MFT/IF 1st round (IF armored up is a whole different thing). I love all the rounded edges.

    I'm more worried about NA packaging Constructicon filler legs with their next release and I'll be sore if it's with this one.
     
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    Looks fantastic. The chest hinges are, however, hard to look at. It would be great from NA if a second set of optional windshields without the hinges were provided, so everyone's taste would be pleased.

    One question, does anybody know if there are spare parts from the trailer in big robot mode, like the MS v2? Or is everything used as the armour?
     
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    I understand why it was done, and that the combined mode was the priority. I'm just saying it looks terrible.

    If making your Ultra Magnus include an inner cab bot means you need to ruin the look of the inner cab bot, then what's the point?
     
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    Yeah, but I'm not too bothered by it - Transformers and awful kibble backpacks that cram in 50% of the alt mode go hand-in-hand, and I've made peace with it. The undisguised arms that are right there next to the head are just glaring. I don't understand why there's no extra flap to hide that stuff.

    The proportions of the torso seem pretty wacky, too. Looks too tall and too bulky from the waist up to me.
     
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    The matrix hole is another one of those things that isn’t worth the cost of doing business, like the fake windows leading to the top view of Prime.

    I’d rather have no matrix gimmick and no toon accurate windows if it means carvings on the inner bots’s chest and the awful double chest.

    I don’t think they’ll be as bothersome in person, but still it’s not worth it.
     
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    The compromises are a bit unsightly, but to be expected. I'm still getting it anyway for my Magnus collection.
     
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    My question is why bother making the inner cab bot impressive at all? We all know the original toy had Prime in there because the tooling was there and available to use, that's about it. The white Prime inside UM was always just extraneous.

    The more appropriate transformation for the character is the MS first version, which doesn't bother with the white bot at all. The IF armored version is appropriate to the comics. This white Prime is just to do what the toy did.. which is to shove him in the armor and call it a day. Like I said, I have no dog in the fight, never cared for the character design, but really the hyperbole around details that don't matter much gets grating. But if it matters to you, fine, but then I imagine every hinge everywhere probably gets you mad and you should probably just hang out in the MS threads where they hide that stuff as a rule.
     
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    No top shots of little magnus, guessing they are trying to hide the double cab lights. :/
     
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    Made some quick shots for comparison sake. If I had some more time I could've made my posing better match the NA shots, but on my way to work now.
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    I’m not really fussed about the white Prime gimmick. What’s the best, G1 accurate, Legends Manus out of all the various options? It’s kind of confusing keeping track of ‘em all.
    Which Magnus is that on the right? Looks a lot nicer tham NA’s
     
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    CONCLUSION: INFERIOR!
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