NEWAGE H25 HERBIE (Bumblebee 2.0) and N25 Cliffjumper

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  1. Huub

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    To each their own, I like the face sculpt, looks really good. The color is good, if it's like that in real life. MS Bee had great color in pictures, but is washed in real life.
    Alt mode looks great, but dang, those panel lines in bot mode... I'm MS all the way, but I can certainly enjoy/respect some of the NA designs, but this bot mode isn't one of them.
     
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  2. LeoJ

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    I think it looks really good, it’ll also let you have an autobot logo in only the right places for both modes
     
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    I hadn't seen him in color before. I feel better about getting him now. I was leaning towards the Magic Square version, but it's face gives me the shivers. Like it's coming for my soul.
     
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    Eh, in a way it manages to look better in real life than in that early render, but still... As a figure, it's quite disjointed and messy.
    I mean, I'll buy it. Overall I appreciate the effort and knowing it has a (much) better alt mode than MST Bee is a solid plus. Bot mode looks acceptable to me, even though all those tabs, bits and pieces attached to the legs are indeed quite distracting.

    Edit - Funny how everyone's still haunted by MST Bee's face (which I find perfectly fine tbh), while I look at this one and see nothing but Owen Wilson in it. XD
    My bad. For some reason I thought the early pictures were 3D images.
     
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    I don’t think we’ve seen a render of this guy, only different test shots.
     
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  6. Kimosabi

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    I'm really hoping they will use this mold for cliff jumper...
     
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  7. grimtnt

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    It's kinda funny that some think this one is complicated when it actually seems to have less moving parts than MST Bee.
     
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    I’m kinda glad I have MS bee in transit to me now. I’ll still get this one but it looks messy, hopefully it looks better in future pics when it’s posed. Not in the same league as their Seekers, Galvatron and others.
     
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    I think the feet was mistransformed so they tried to hide it.

    I guess NA H26 is Cliffjumper, hence it will probably use the same mold.
     
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    Looks like they improved his face sculpt, the torso is slightly broken but it can be cover with logo stickers. I hope the next minibot could be Cliffjumper.
     
  11. Tekkaman Blade

    Tekkaman Blade Professor of Animation

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    Looks better in color, but the gaps still don't work for me, I'll stick with magic Square for now, unless later pictures change my mind.
     
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    I'm wondering if it's NA being silly: fuzzing it out because it would be a spoiler to show it.
     
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    It appears mistransformed compared to the originals, there isn’t a piece sticking out in those photos ... maybe not.
     
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    These are the same people that did the fuck-awesome Insecticons, yes? If they're using that sweet nylon plastic it can be done, imho.
     
  15. NOCV

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    They are, but even those don't have bicep swivels. They have ball jointed elbows.

    With nylon, you can get away with .7 mm wall thickness on a ball joint socket's walls, so it stands to reason that you can do the same with mushrooms. The issue is the shaft thickness of the mushroom peg, the bar section beneath the head of the mushroom. The shaft is the weakest part of the assembly because it is the thinnest part that has force focused on it. If it's too thin, then you risk breakage in any material.

    Let's be generous and say BBB 2.0's biceps are 4 mm in diameter, and using a minimal wall thickness on the port of .7mm. That reduces your available material to 2.6mm. Then you have to take away at least .2 mm of that for spacing between parts so that they are movable, which leaves you with 2.4 mm of material. So, now the head of your mushroom is 2.4 mm in diameter, and the shaft has to be thinner than that so that its held in place in the port. So that there's enough material difference between the head and the shaft to keep the peg from being pulled downward out of the port, you'll want at least what you're using for the wall thickness, which in this example is .7mm. That's .7mm in from the rim of the 2.4 mm diameter mushroom head, and an added minimum .1 mm gap to allow the parts to move, meaning your shaft is at max .8mm in diameter in a 4mm in diameter bicep.

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    Nylon's strong, but I don't think it's strong enough for a joint part that small in a figure this large.
     
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    Indeed. I was just making a play on the word 'spoiler', nothing more!
     
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    Redeco announcements when?
     
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    lol went over my head
     
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    Newage H26 Vanishing Point has a strong mobility and is all stoving varnish. Just like H25 , eighty percent of the parts are re-recreated. It also has four magnet oars and a cannon.
     
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