Please forgive if this has been touched upon bofore, but how do you guys feel about the new MPs reflecting G1 mold accuracy? I don't mean nit-picky stuff, but more along the lines of seeing a MP Breakdown from the Sideswipe mold. ...or a MP Dead End or Dragstrip from a Jazz or Mirage mold (...if they are ever made) With all of the "...no Sunstreaker from the Sideswipe mold" sentiment (which I completely agree with) would releases such as these be acceptable to the general fandom or would they need their own molds? Let me know what you think...
i wouldnt want a breakdown if it wasnt part of a combiner team. so no go there. but i wont be a slave to the G1 alt mode. im sure ill be happy using the upcoming fp breakdown as my masterpiece since i run a mixed masterpiece collection. to me that is most important. the colors are also very important to me. so hopefully they get that right.
They should get their own molds if the cartoon models were different. Just having the same alt mode doesn't cut it for a redeco.
I don't see the point. If they can make a reference to the originals thats cool, but I'd rather show accuracy with scale vehicles.
This is where I am. I don't see myself paying the upwards of $90 for a figure that is lack luster in either department.
I want show accuracy over toy accuracy, with scale based more on robot modes. I'm also glad that that seems to be how they're doing things so far, with homages to the toys being mainly in deco choices between Takara and Hasbro. The big one will be if they make Ironhide and Ratchet cartoon accurate, because the toys had no heads and a seperate battle platform, which is a big DO NOT WANT for me. If you want complete G1 toy accuracy, collect G1 toys. Show accuracy hasn't had much representation before, so I'd like the MP line to keep doing that. ~Matt Booker
show accuracy 1st, licenced alt mode if needed, no more figures like ultra powerglide was for alt mode scale. small character, small toy, and i would rather have no breakdown than a sideswipe repaint. this is masterpiece, not classics i have a g1 toy accurate figure already of most
Show accuracy all the way. The original G1 figures are what they are because of the limitation they had back then. Homaging the toy instead of the original character is totally pointless IMO.
Do i want show accuracy? Sure. However, I also want functionality, durability and detail in both modes. I DO NOT want overly simplistic transformations or simplistic bot modes like the G1 toys had (they felt alot like Gobots TBH). I know they will not be able to transform exactly like they did in the cartoon, but they can at least take some cues from it. I honestly would love it if they could somehow have nice interiors like the alternators/binaltechs used to but without being so large.
Not for the MP line. MP line should be show accurate all the way. I am not willing to take any sacrifices on that. Save that for the classics line.
How many times must we repeat our selves? We want what we saw on TV back when we were all kids in the early to mid 80's!! Sideswipe was a awsome ! Now, carry on Takara. An bring forth the entire G1 cast
In regards specifically to the Stunticons, I don't want an MP-Motormaster that uses the whole truck and trailer for his bot mode. I know, I know, but it bothers me to think we'd wind up with a Motormaster Semi that isn't in scale with MP-10's alt mode. Oddly enough, I think I'd be alright with a Motormaster that towered over the rest of the new MPs given that his feet would be the size of MP-10's chest. If that's the direction they took to make Motormaster both show accurate and Menasor a massive figure, I'm good. Still, all of this has been thoroughly beaten to death in the Speculation Thread.
IMO Ironhide and Ratchet should be a hybrid of toy and show. They should have the battle platform and a head. Considering the Classics attempt at a MARB-free design was total garbage, I'd rather avoid something that tries to compress the entire van into a robot mode. Show accurate robot mode with MARB, thank you.
THIS!!!!! This is why I collect Masterpies! Yes Ironhide, and Ratchet need there battle stations! They both had them in the G1 comic, and Ratchet used his once in the Cartoon. Yeah I disagree with this. I love that the new MP line is all about cartoon accuracy, and Robot scale. Id love for it to be both, but G1 kind of made that impossible. So yeah I want a G1 accurate "Truck, and Trailer" Motormaster scaled for Robot mode. If that means hes tiny in truck mode so be it!
yup no compromises for me either. Either show accurate or nothing for the MP line. A breakdown repaint from sideswipe or a sunstreaker repaint from sideswipe I would simple NOT buy. And I'm pretty sure they wont do that either. They'll repaint if the characters are the same like with the seekers but not when there are noticeable differences This is the Masterpiece Line each and every one of them has to be as show accurate as possible to that extent I don't care if they have to delay certain figures just to get them right.
I'm not sure if it's possible for me to disagree more. Ratchet may have used it once in the show, but the majority of media didn't use the battle sleds. Whether someone remembers the battle sleds fondly or not is up to the person of course, but given the amount of non-sled saturation it's probably safe to say it's not exactly iconic. As for compressing an entire van into a robot mode... It's basically a big rectangular block with wheels. MP Sideswipe had less to work with than that, because he's a flat rectangle. How much more simple can that be? ~Matt Booker
Presumably few of the people who want show accuracy are actually buying MPs, then? As they are quite clearly majority designed to be hybrids of the cartoon and toy versions. They may be coming down more on the side of the cartoon, but no MP so far has been wholly "show accurate". A good thing, imo. Makes them more interesting because they're hybrids. As for the original question, I'd rather not see "lazy" other-character repaints of MP moulds; but as we've not seen any evidence of it so far*, I'm not sure why it comes up as such a concern all the time. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I will repeat my babblings about Sideswipe/Sunstreaker tho; they are supposed to both be an LP500S. The fundamental reason they a look different in vehicle mode is the legacy of the Diaclone toys, and that the original Diaclone Countach was neither as accurately designed or licensed like the later "new" Countach. So, even with the blingy engine block thing on the back of Sunstreaker, it's still meant to be an LP500S; I fully expect (and hope) that the MP for Sunstreaker will have the same licensed alt mode as Sideswipe, but a totally different transformation & robot mode. And that'd be pretty cool - and so far nothing about the MP line suggests Sunstreaker and Sideswipe won't be dissimilar in bot mode, just as the toys and animation models were. *Waits for someone to use MP-2 as the basis for saying TT always do lazy repaints
I'm all about engineering and show accuracy on these toys. They're supposed to be an incarnation of what we saw on our televisions when we were kids. As much as we all love G1 toys they were very limited to the technology of the day.
