New Age Legends Scale Devastator

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  1. Chrisola

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    DX9 Attilla \ Menasor is all in one. No extra or hands, no upgrade kits (yes there are fan made 'legs on the front' of shins kits, but by design, all in one).

    MMC Assaultus is all in one, the extra kit is....extra and optional. Still 'all in one'.

    Cang Toys - the hands are extra parts, so that fails it out, immediately.

    FT - no completed combiners, so nobody except the designers know, yet.

    XTB Menasor might also be a non partsformer...i don;t have it. But the feet and hands are part of the trailer, so i guess similar to DX9.
     
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    Yes I am sure. They make use of separate pieces for the hands and feet, but that's it. The "upgrade kit" exist only to give Assaultus the toy look, it really doesn't improve anything upon the original.

    DST's Encourager is an almost "all built in" combiner.
     
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    Technically Atilla is still a parts former because of the need for the specific part to allow Breakdown to actually stick on the leg (included with Capone). But he's close.

    Upgrade kit feet greatly improves on original which is unstable and hard to stand with original feet.
     
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    I somehow both enjoy and despise the fierce competition between New Age and Magic Square.

    In terms of that teaser pic...are they going 'too far' with the articulation? Their recent Bee also has this sort of 'skeleton of blocks look'...I mean the way NA feels in hand far surpasses MS...but I'm wondering if figures like Soundwave/Seekers hit a better articulation/accuracy/detail compromise.
     
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    Isn't a non-partsforming combiner asking too much at this little scale? Honest question. I'm no engineer
     
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    They probably could, but the backpacks would be huge (they could potentially make the leg backpacks fold flat, but it'd be flimsy as hell)
     
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    I think if you're trying to nail a G1 Toon Devy it is. I don't know how you could pull off the forearms and fists when they seem to have and equal amount of mass as the upper arms.
     
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    I don't think scale is the problem. Pants make it easier to have stronger ratches, which are needed as weight goes up, not down. But at any scale they make a lot of design problems irrelevant. It's just hard to find a way to fit the torso, thigh, and back mass in one dump truck. Hasbro tried, and did fairly well, at the expense of turning Long Haul into an ogre. You may be able to fight legs and thighs in there, but then shoehorning forearms and fists into Scavenger and Bonecruser present a whole new problem. All in all, you're going to sacrifice something - I'd give up all in one before I give up any of the other modes. Although I'd still prefer as little kibble as possible.

    So far, I'm still leaning towards KBB as my go-to legends Devastator. Magic Square is a little too Marvel / Sunbow for my taste. Usually not a problem, but Devy's a special case of blocky. But going by their Mixmaster they have a really shot at replacing my DX9 bots. I'm not sure about this Scavenger - he looks very skeletal, but the jury's still out on that one.
     
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    DX9's Hulkie did it. Hook's crane boom made the chest crest, the forearms tucked under and between the treads of Bonecrusher and Scavenger, and the hands closed up on the rear of their alt modes. It wasn't perfect, but was pretty awesome for our first legends Devastator:
    Toy Review: Dx9 Toys Hulkie - Kuma Style

    NA was formed by one of DX9's legends designers, so it'll be interesting to see if they go that route again.
     
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    Well it depends on what aesthetic limitations are trying to be upheld. Hulkie has a lot of stuff that isn’t exactly like a G1 Devy, and so it plays that to its advantage with stuff like the Hook crane into the chest shield and Scavenger having the bucket on his front.
     
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    Glad you were all able to express what I couldn't put to words. I'd rather have a good looking bot with extra parts then a bad looking one.
     
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    Thing is also with the scale here. I’m willing to believe that a relatively toony Devastator could work at a larger size with a higher partscount and more room to work with stuff. But at a legends size I find this a pretty fair decision.
     
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    NA_NEWAGE
    Each member stands at 9.8cm tall, combined mode about 25cm, diecast metal parts in each unit. There are different changeable face for Devastator and comes with LED. Weapon for Devastator will have light and sound gimmick
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    Man these both look so good



    wait, oh my god
    Is that... is that a hinge joint? Does Scrapper have opening hands??????
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    There's no way, right?
     
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    mother.......say what now? Well, heck.
    Now I’ll be doing that.
     
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    NA is the toon version ,and I thought to buy them especially for robot modes ,instead MS as proportions is as I see Devastator,a slow but bulky giant.
    At this point I'll surely buy both for my love of team and combiner, but that NA version can change face is another win point.
    For legs as first pics,Scrapper is better in MS,Mixmaster foot in NA.
     
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    According to the post by NA, half the team has posable hands.

    English Google Translate of the NA post, provided by @williammmw
     
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    huh...i expected the NA devy to have ball joints at the elbows and wrist. i am kind of disappointed.

    either way it is an interesting bot. i am not sure if i was buy it yet. the MS devy is a for sure buy in my book. but sometimes about the NA dev is throwing me off. maybe it is because he is a little thin.
     
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