Netflix WfC Trilogy discussion thread

Discussion in 'Transformers Cyberverse and Cartoon Discussion' started by Shackstoys, Feb 15, 2019.

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Will it be good?

  1. Yes!

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  2. No!

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  3. I'm from the future and all who said yes were right!

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  4. I'm from the future and all who said no were right!

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  5. I'm from the future and there was never a Titan class Skorponok figure!! Please hastak!!!

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  1. Coffee

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    As much as I like the idea of Soundblaster being a neutral crime boss, that line about cloning is so ridiculous when you actually stop to think for two seconds about it. What makes a clone in a universe where people, even prominent characters, may look exactly the same as others in terms of body-type, but still have their own personalities? Does the Soundblaster clone have Soundwave's memories and intelligence as well as his body type, and just went insane due to his knowledge of being a clone? The thing is, what is even to be gained in Shockwave cloning Soundwave? Did he sit down with Megatron and go,

    "Alright, I have a plan. We have a lot to worry about right now while at war, but this is what I think we should do. We'll clone Soundwave."

    Like was there a meeting that took place between Megatron, Shockwave, and Soundwave where they were like: "Alright, meeting adjourned. We're cloning Soundwave, that's our main technological priority, makes sense to me."
     
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    I prefer Megatron to be stronger than Prime but I thought the Optimus Prime vs Megatron was well balanced, in the last fight Prime lands an incredible punch on him. They tie it into the dialogue nicely with Megatron saying cybertron needs his strength.

    Seems like Prime rises to the occassion for the final fight just like he did in the 1986 movie

    I only wish the fight was 5 minutes longer and Megatron pulled out his energon mace or his sword.

    They really nailed his fusion cannon effect it looked powerful
     
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  3. Arduous

    Arduous Megatron Rules All TFW2005 Supporter

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    So .... was anyone else like “Yes!” :buttrock  When Omega Supreme appeared?


    Breaking the guardian code/rules ...and just kicking arse... :buttrock :buttrock :buttrock :buttrock :buttrock :buttrock 
     
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  4. Rumblestorm

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  5. UtahRobotInDisguise

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    I loved sound blaster being a clone. Makes more sense than changing one’s name because your look changes (however, David Bowie made a career of it)...

    Jetfire was by far my favorite character in this. Did like the idea of autobots not trusting him, unlike the instant acceptance of Skyfire in G1.

    shockwave with a lab full of plot devices was a tad toooooo convenient for me, but I must admit I laughed out loud when Megatron calls him out on having too many secret experiments for his tastes.

    Most surprising accolade I can give the cartoon: my wife loves it! This has been the only transformers media she actually watched with me. Usually she’s on her cellphone, ignoring the tv. With this, she was watching every single minute and was upset when the season ended.

    According to her, she likes it because it moves straight to the key points without boring filler like the other cartoons.
     
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  6. seanismyname

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    I watched the first two.
    Not as bad as I thought. Very watchable.

    The fighting could be a bit more dynamic. The voices were uniformly generic.
    Does feel like watching toys, not bots.

    lame how ultra Magnus got captured so quickly.

    You could do a drinking game based on how often Bumblebee says he’s “not an Autobot” or a Decepticon says “prepare to die!”
     
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  7. UtahRobotInDisguise

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    My wife yelled out “Yes! Gabriel!” Lol
     
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  8. Magnum Dongus

    Magnum Dongus Stupid Idiot

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    I noticed that. It thought myself that it seriously sounded like he was standing way too far away from the mic. Plus, it sounded like he was doing just a normal speaking voice, which sounds kind of awkward when it’s Soundwave.
    Or how many times a character (especially Optimus) says “we must do blah blah etc.” instead of just fucking doing something.

    In real life, when someone gives an order, they just say, “go clean the countertop.” There is no overly dramatic “We... must go.... and clean the counter!” I absolutely can not stand Optimus speaking like a stereotypical sci-fi robot everywhere he goes. There is no reason he should have to have an irrational phobia of using verbal contractions when he speaks.
    I don’t understand why he was just... under the spacebridge. How did he get there? Was he there the whole time? Why wasn’t he with the rest of the guardians? His decision that Megatron was suddenly game to be fought on the last day of the war because he was a threat to Cybertron doesn’t make any sense either. Isn’t that exactly what Optimus was trying to explain to the guardians, presumably numerous times throughout the war?
     
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    He actually explains it. He’s no longer a “guardian”... His actions are his own, which is why he arrived alone. He mulled over Optimus’s words and decided Megatron’s ambitions WOULD finish cybertron.

    as for how he arrived, cybertron seems to have tons of large, hollow Subterranean passageways. Pretty sure as a “guardian” he’s got access to anywhere on the planet when needed. Not a very good defender if he gets stuck in traffic and arrives after the world explodes.
     
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  10. Longitudinalwave

    Longitudinalwave A Big Fan of (Sound/Shock)wave

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    This is a long-standing (8+ years), and rather odd, Optimus vocal quirk. Why does seriousness= not using contractions in the minds of scriptwriters?
    :lol 
    Or, alternatively:
    Soundwave: (walks into Shockwave's lab, sees a clone of himself in a tube) Query: What is this?
    Shockwave: Greetings, Soundwave. I analyzed our current situation, and determined that the most logical course of action was to create a clone of you. You are our most effective information gatherer, and my preliminary estimates suggest that Decepticon efficiency will increase by 75.4% once the clone is complete and prepared to enter the field.
    Soundwave: Has this been cleared with Lord Megatron?
    Shockwave: Affirmative. I presented the idea to him five weeks ago, and he agreed that it is considerably more logical to devote our time and resources to a clone of you rather than to weaponry or defensive fortifications.
    Soundwave: What?
    Shockwave: (Ignoring him) I did a complete scan of your form three weeks ago, and the project has been going precisely as planned. You've arrived just in time for me to allow the clone to emerge from its protective pod for the first time.
    Soundwave: You did a complete scan of me without telling me?
    Shockwave: Affirmative. I fail to see why you are bothered by this, though. I have complete scans of the forms of everyone in this army. Where did you think all of our Reflectors came from?
    (Shockwave presses buttons on his computer; Tube surrounding Soundblaster lowers)
    Soundblaster: (To Soundwave) Brother?
    Soundwave: (To Shockwave) I hate you.
     
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  11. Sammael

    Sammael MightyMegatron from ATT

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    Watched it. 7/10 for effort, although the story was just a rehash, characters were flat and had no personality (aside from a handful of them) and voice acting was atrocious except in Megatron's case.

    I was like "oh great, a deus ex machina moment." Lazy storytelling/writing.
     
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    Just finished the series. Overall it was enjoyable. Wish they had varied up the character designs more. How many versions of Cog, Ironhide, and Sidewipe are there? I thought that was lazy animation.

    Action doesn’t really pick up until the last two episodes and I was getting tired of all the exposition. I really wish it had been a 10-13 episode season. It would have allowed for the same level of exposition while allowing the content of the last 2-3 episodes to spread out more. It would have also allowed for more character development. Jetfire, Impactor, and Ratchet were standouts but I think some G1 opportunities were missed such as Ironhide being an older, experienced bot. I enjoyed that not everyone was completely on board with Optimus’ direction but enough Elita. We get you’re not happy.

    I continue to get frustrated at how they try to have Bumblebee be a modern substitute for Hot Rod. They did the same thing during the Armada/Energon phase with Hot Shot. Just bring back the OG Chosen One! What they did in adding some depth to BB was welcome despite that. Now let’s just hope we can easily get that figure!

    The show is clearly meant to sell the toys and if I didn’t have them all already I would be running to get them. I still don’t have Chromia so now I need to think about getting her.

    As a G1 fan since the beginning, I’m grateful for the series and looking forward to Earthrise. It will be a long break between seasons but I’ll definitely be watching the Siege season multiple times until then.

    ‘Til All Are One!

    Oh and I enjoyed seeing a pure G1 version of Arcee. Omega Supreme was inevitable but also was cool if only short-lived and used only as a plot device.
     
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    The show could have done with a few generics for the background crowds. It's really disconcerting seeing obvious recolours of the main cast.

    Spinister, yeah! Though the budget clearly didn't extend to giving an alt mode.....
     
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    Smokeyoreo18 Drank two apple juice boxes today

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    I have a theory on that it might a bit of a stretch but I think that siege astrotrain is actually cyberverse astrotrain and this is one of the universes he visited
     
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    Thats too bad?
     
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    After I watched all the episodes (some once again with German synchronization), I must say that I found it quite good. Let's put it this way; I wouldn't have any objection to an improvement (and here and there some little changes) in the next run.

    I especially liked:

    - the animation, the designs of Cybertron (the wrecked towns, the environment/surroundings). The designs of the robots are not my favs, but its ok.
    - Optimus and Elita, reunited in a Transformers series again (if only briefly). Would have loved to see more of it.
    - Arcee was great
    - finally, Mirage again
    - Impactor and Jetfire changing sides
    - Starscream, Thundercracker and Skywarp, finally together again (albeit with other Seekers, in a larger group). Starscream even looked genuinely dismayed when Skywarp collapsed in front of him.

    I didn't like

    - some voices. In my opinion they just didn't match, even sounded terrible. For example; Thundercrackers voice (horrible), Ironhide (too young), Hound (too old), Shockwave, Wheeljack and Skywarp did not fit either (after some time I got used to it, still...). And I am not a big fan of Starscreans voice. Although his english voice is better than the German voice (simply awfull). Personally I would LOVE to hear Sam Riegel as Starscream again. Or Michael Dobson. Also, I found almost all voices too "monotonous"?

    - Prowl was too tiny and Bee was too big
    - hardly humor (at least there were Arcee, Bee and Cog, together on a mission)
    - Skywarps death. I sincerely hope it was just one of Starscreams lies.
    - Jetfire as the leader of the Seeker? Not quite to my taste. I prefer him as a researcher and scientist.
    - Ultra Magnus death
    - the Seekers are out of action far too quickly (this already annoyed me in Cyberverse)
    - Bee as a scavenger? Would have loved to see Cliffjumper in this role
    - I prefer Ratched as doctor and Red Alert as Security Director
    - Starscreams and Jetfires relationsship. I must admit, I always liked the idea of them as old friends
     
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  18. ThunderDestron

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    Yeah sinice cyberverse set up canon multiverse and astrotrain was traveling the multoverse towards the end it does make sense. As long as he isnt to heavy to make it back to cybertron
     
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    Too bad, so sad?

    I was also weirded out by that Astrotrain cameo. I wasn't even sure if that was him at first and what the point of him being there was. Point being, we never really see him in battle. We don't see him transform. We see what I think is him just standing for a few seconds and then he's gone. Never to be seen again. I almost wonder why they rendered his model there.
     
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  20. Cyberbot8460

    Cyberbot8460 Waiting for Hasbro to let TRIGGER make a TF anime.

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    I mean, a multiverse was already established thanks to TFCC.
     
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