Absolutely zero chance on the new preorders. Like @WeVoCoN said, you can wait for the in stock sale if don't want to pay up front, which I might do. The wait sucks, since they ship everything else first and also wait on if there's issues with figures to send replacements. It's usually a couple months after the wave first ships. I remember hearing about that Legionbuilder sale for a while now, but no word on it. That would be cool for Black Friday. Don't forget the Equadron heads work on the horses! I kind of hope that means I can use the Moose head on an Ogre figure too lol.