I'm just venting here. Don't get me wrong, the first one was good (or pretty good anyways) But honestly, it doesn't make sense that people are bashing bay when it seems to me that his entheuseasim is what's keeping the series alive (that and the work of the people at ilm) But honestly, the reason I think the transformers movies from 2 onward fail to be good (or even passable) is because of Hasbros insistence on Ehren Kruger being the one and only writer for the whole movies Don't get me wrong, Ehren Kruger is a great writer (seriously), but the epic scope of what Hasbro demands and what bay delivers is just too grand to be transcribed all by one person The first movie was great. It was written by Alexander orci and that other guy, but when rotf was being made during the writers strike and they pulled in Kruger, well it was bound to be a flop. But it still made money because its a transformers film, and because it made so much more frivolous paper then the first one, it was probably to the insistence of Hasbro to keep that guy on board, like he was the magic number or something. Honestly, I think aoe could have been a better movie, but probably not one that was nearly successful. I mean, you can criticize anyone who payed money for it to be an idiot, but at this point it just feels like its productive indifference. I mean, like, it made the most money at the box office this year, but nobody's talking about it. It's like people are just sitting down to watch it because its a transformers film, not even enjoying it even. It's just like an obligation. Me and my sister both payed eight dollars to see the film in three d at our local theatre, and neither of us really enjoyed it but we saw it, I mean, the main motivator for me was just so that I could read posts on this board without being spoiled. Honestly, I doesnt feel like the transformers movies are even films anymore, it's just like something you do now.