MTMTE #37 Discussion Thread

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  1. Mort

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    Yes. And they may well see Megatron as the one thing that stood in their way.
     
  2. General Magnus

    General Magnus Da Custodes of the Emprah

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    Pretty much, yeah. If they survived till present day, they know who threw a wrench in their plans, and it was never Orion Pax.
     
  3. shadowsfm

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    i laughed that after all this time, ultra magnus still sees megs as a bad guy.
     
  4. Napalm

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    This is just an observation, nothing more, but I was totally struck on page 6 by the similarities to the front of the Lost Light and Megatron's head :lol 

    Back to the issue, how much did the creative team pull out the stops on this one? Cyclonus was right to be awestruck.

    Cracking spot by Wrecker217 re Senator Sherma.

    Rereading now. Excellent stuff.
     
  5. Maverick Hunter Christian

    Maverick Hunter Christian Choke on that, causality!

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    He still saw Drift as a potential criminal, and by that point he'd been an Autobot for years. Megatron has only been serving on the Lost Light for a little more than six month, versus leading the Decepticons for... four million years.

    Shouldn't be a surprise.
     
  6. Omegashark18

    Omegashark18 Combaticon turned Autobot

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    Man, I'm late. This issue just further iterates how great Roberts is at planting seeds. Rung really was forgotten and it was his future self the whole time! Not counting issue #34.

    But why Brainstorm is doing this I still don't have an idea. Though I wonder what the consequences of this arc will be?

    Everyone got a moment here, except Riptide. Whirl's was easily my favorite. Seeing him say "Oi!" Made me smile.

    Can't wait to see how this ends. :D 
     
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    Suddenly another part of Shadowplay makes sense: in the present, the crew was telling a tale that Rung was somewhat involved in to jog his mind, but it didn't work because RUNG NEVER WAS THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE
     
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    I don't know if it adds up timeline wise, but a thought occurred to me. When Skids went through that portal back when, an image of a cog symbol was seen in what was supposedly "Cyberutopia". Could the Functionalist Council be the Knights of Cybertron? Imagine what a mind fuck that would be when they find them at the end of their quest. Just a thought...
     
  9. megatronski

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    I absolutely LOVED how they reused the art from Chaos Theory, it was an excellent flashback to that time reading comics, with those two super good issues amongst the terribad Costa run...
     
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    I want to hug you and kiss you on the lips in a bromance kind of way...extremely nice catch!
     
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    Sorry. My lips are reserved.

    Brofist?
     
  12. PA_Kid

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    Personally I think this adds some insights and rules out some things.

    1 - as many people like the idea that brainstorm is giving Megs a new spark intentionally, I doubt it. Brainstorm did a test jump and then jumped back to several key spots (including the bar fight). Reason? He didn't want to kill megatron, but he wanted to stop him. Jumping back to creation is his last and most drastic solution. If he wanted megatron dead, you'd think it was simpler to start there.

    2 - Brainstorm isn't intentionally leading Rodimus' crew to preserve the timeline. Reason? Brainstorm left when he saw the rung there was future rung and not past rung. If he was leading them, that should not have changed his plan. Also, he knocked out the past rung to prevent the bar fight only to find future rung created it (prompting the "unbelievable"). He was thwarted, not intentionally trying to get things to unfold as they should.

    Question - Perceptor indicates that they need to jump back 1 year to the bar fight to 4th cycle 499 from the first time we see in the issue. What was the significance of that year? Megatron doesn't list it in his list of temporal hot spots. I assume Brainstorm would also keep his jumps to a minimum to avoid draining the quantum drives so it seems like that 1 year later from when megatron was arrested should also have some significance in Megatron's timeline.

    Ultimately between all that and the reveal that the functionist council was behind the senate and empurata, I still think the most likely scenario is that Brainstorm is working on some old orders/imperative (possibly forced) by the functionist council to try a hail mary to prevent the war in the first place.

    Odd thought - wouldn't it be funny if somehow the briefcase becomes Brainstorm's headmaster at some point? :p 
     
  13. General Tekno

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    The bar fight is when he got arrested and subsequently beat up by Whirl, who showed him that a more violent path may be the one to take.
     
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    Right, but the first timepoint is a year AFTER the bar fight. At which Brainstorm sees Rung with LL model, bolts, and goes back 1 more year.

    What is significant about that timepoint? I don't see it being Brainstorm doing recon. That time must have some significance.
     
  15. Kraken

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    Amazing! Such a wonderful intricate web. Absolutely everything is important.
     
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    I KNOW RIGHT? mfw I drew lines:

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  17. General Tekno

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    Oh, THAT timepoint. Megatron says its significance in the story - Brainstorm just ended up in the wrong place to be able to get to the event in time.

    My impression was that this was set when Megatron first killed someone.
     
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    ^no that was last issue's time point wasn't it?
     
  19. Mort

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    No... that was last issue. The first jump this issue (Nightbeat & Quark outside Maccadam's) should be Terminus disappearing.
     
  20. PA_Kid

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    I thought that one was listed on the board back in the LL present as cycles later.

    If that was a "oops, missed by a year" that would be the only time that occured. Seems odd...