MPM-15 Brawl

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Praxus, Jan 18, 2024.

  1. MattST

    MattST I'm too irresponsible with £££

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    what are you on about? The guy is a TANK. Tanks are bulky, brutally strong vehicles. Ngl I think the extra bulk suits him.
    You dont see rugby players being slim.
     
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  2. TF Hot Rod

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    Easy to do when it’s a cgi model and not a 3d toy that has to transform
     
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  3. mx-01 archon

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    The waist is sculpted just fine. There's just a chunk of kibble behind it because they can't vanish all the tank bits like the movie model did, and they distributed it more evenly rather than pile it all onto the calves and forearms like the Studio Series version.

    It'll look better in-hand, when you can better distinguish his 3D shapes. It all dissolves into dark grey-green mush in the photos.
     
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  4. Nemesisprime1975

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    Yeah I just checked hasbro pulse and nothing. I'll just bide my time. I dont deal with 3rd party sites other than my LCS.
     
  5. JonzyYT

    JonzyYT Studio Series is great again!

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    Is it true that MPM Optimus wasn't made using the ILM CAD as a reference?
     
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  6. AndreyOfDoom

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    actually the shoulders are accurate on studio series. That’s how they were in the movie. The MPM has more panels so you can’t see the shoulders as well but the MPM forearms are way better in silhouette as the studio Voyager has way too large turret chunks so you can’t see them as well.

    The lower legs have much better silhouette too in MPM cause they hid a lot more tank kibble and treads.
     
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  7. mx-01 archon

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    The one miss on the MPM is that they truncated the outer "fins" on his knees. Probably due to a transformation clearance issue. But the legs are much nicer shaped overall.
     
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    i think the issue is how bulky and wide he is. He’s an extra shoulder wider than his ILM model. It also doesn’t help that Blackout is skinnier than his model so side by side, Bonecrusher looks even bigger.
     
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    I'm not sure but I can believe it, I'm sure they looked at the CGI model on google but I can believe that pre-SS they didn't have the films to look at.
     
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  10. GrimlockPrime19

    GrimlockPrime19 I'm in my Prime

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    Damn I'll miss the butt canon
     
  11. mx-01 archon

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    Honestly, it's fine. It sorta fits my "mind's eye" better, being so used to looking at his design through the lens of his 2007 figures.

    It's really jarring to see just how skinny his CG model is. And you don't get especially long looks at him in the movie, so any deviations don't really spoil an "iconic" look so much.
     
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  12. Chopperface

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    This guy is insane!! I love him.
     
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    The tough thing with Optimus that most of the toys from both Hasbro and 3P have struggled with is the exact shaping of his torso.

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    It's very hard to capture- the windows and truck hood abs need to be just the right size relative to one another, they can't be too widely spread out and leave too big an inner gap in the middle, the truck hood abs need to be elongated enough, they need to be just the ratio of squared off to rounded...

    Lots of celebrated Movie Optimus toys have struggled with this, from the ROTF Leader to the non-transforming ThreeZero ROTF Prime. The OG MPM actually did a pretty decent job of capturing this, albeit with a lot of finagling that made the truck mode a nightmare to get tabbed together, and for all its improvements, the Black Apple version really struggled with this with the window pieces being too far apart and the abs not really lining up in a visually appealing way. The Studio Series gets it right but has to use faux parts to do so.

    So I'm eager to see how a 2.0 attempt by Hasbro / Sam would solve for this. The legs are basically as good as they're going to get, and the arms have a clear path to improvement (getting the shoulder pads better shaped and cleaning up the forearm shaping), but the torso is always going to be the main challenge.
     
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    The Samlock Brawl render as a png:

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  15. Throway

    Throway You'll never stop at one...

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    I really need to see a prime in the modern style, the attention to detail on the vehicle and new engineering tricks must be taken advantage of. I cannot believe how much wasted space there is on that figure... The arms and legs barely transform, I can just picture the cleverly folded up panels allowing the chest to be faux and the right shape.
     
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  16. Hoptimus

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    Bonecrusher's vehicle mode is about 27 feet long; Brawl's is about 26, not including the plows or those tanks on the rear. OSKO SS Brawl is about the right size. I have Bones and the desert camo Brawl out right now, I'll take pics tonight.
     
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  17. meisterman

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    IIRC they started having access to ILM models starting with the TLK toyline, which coincided with MPMs 3&4. It’d be unusual to me if they could use it on one but not the other.
     
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  18. MnemonicSyntax

    MnemonicSyntax Macrodata Refinement - SVR'D Access

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    I feel like Ironhide doesn't even need a complete teardown. Just some improvement (not KO-wise) to fix things that aren't the best.

    Prime though... ooof.
     
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    Ironhide in order to fix would basically need a upper body and arms retool/change, the waist down is fine the way it is.
     
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    Despite being a bit more chunky than the actual character model, the figure looks absolutely amazing. It really feels like HasTak has managed to find their stride in this line since Megatron.
     
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