MP-57 - Masterpiece Skyfire

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Starfire22, Mar 25, 2021.

  1. bigcee66

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    Tell us you really didn’t watch the show without telling us you really didn’t watch the show.
    With that logic so was Arcee, Kup and Springer…count how many episodes they were in. Prepare to be shocked.
     
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    I watched it all, thank you. Age near 45 here.

    But you missed my point; which is NOT about Skyfire's character arc - rather his lack of G1 design-to-G1 toy development, because all of those other designs were toy intended, Arcee being somewhat of an exception with only a prototype. (and those examples you mentioned are all movie/S3 characters, which marks Hasbro's departure from leaning on Diaclone/Microman molds)

    Nightbird obviously didnt even transform, Skyfire however could - but without having a toy that looked like his onscreen appearance. And thus, the transformation scheme was not a product of proper engineering, but rather cartoon magic. And it is exactly in that sense that his character design is a cult item.

    A cult item for which we have had to wait nearly 40 years for an official definitive and ultimate representation.
     
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    Why is it everybody always gets antsy right before release:lol 

    Anybody notice apparently he's getting made in Vietnam. He'll be the first MP made in Vietnam since Crosscut, lets hope the great qc run continues.
     
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    probably it will never happen, i fear.
     
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    Oh, confirmation from Omegalock that stock expected in the next 2 weeks. I asked by chat message
     
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    Do you even know why his design was changed?
     
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    now, all we need is masterpiece jazz.
     
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    soak, rinse and spin (and a bit of drying):lolol 
     
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    What are the other vietnamese MP after Hound?
     
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    ofcourse
     
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    Thanks for passing that on
     
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    Arcee and Skids molds
     
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    Looking forward to this. Love Phoenix but this guy looks more “scientist” than Phoenix. Phoenix looks more like Doomguy or Samus.
     
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    So Phoenix is like Professor Frink's dad, while MP-57 is Professor Frink... "Oh fembot! Nice fembot!!! Oye Glayben!"
     
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    So...anyone who thinks Skyfire's ahhum, "jet mode" is trash, probably thinks stuff like a Legioss from Mospeada is trash design too....

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    But really....come on...they all fit the category of sci-fi space crafts, blocky, unevenly shaped etc.

    Point is, if you're comparing him to an F15 Seeker in a visual design context, you're doing it wrong.

    Obviously, G1 Sunbow/Marvel comics Skyfire never had the 'luxury' of having actual toy engineering for his onscreen transformation....the Sunbow animators (and rumored Floro Dery? ) did as best as they could. Of course, the endresult is that the 'jet mode' is slightly less refined. But even F15 Seeker toys have blocky undercarriage, so....
     
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    Nope. The Legioss is still a jet, albeit it more a space jet. And the entire robotmode is needed for the altmode: wings, engines and cockpit are all formed from the robotmode.

    This is very different from the animation model of Jetfire/Skyfire. His jet is a folded up robot that's not needed for the jetmode: the backpack has the wings, engines and even a possible cockpit. Simply said, you don't need the robot parts because the backpack can fly on it's own, while the robot part has nothing: no engines and no wings. The only way it makes sense is if the robot is cargo space.

    I do like Jetfire/Skyfire's robotmode, but dislike the altmode. I've always wanted a merger of the toy and the animation model: robot mode from the animation model and transforming into something more akin to the toys jet mode but better. And yes, that can mean a blocky made up space based jet mode just as long as the robot actually contributes to the altmode. (The old Classics Jetfire toy comes closest.)
     
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    Like or dislike the MP is based on what we saw on screen.
     
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    Based on what they want to do with the combiners, i would like to have microfigures multipack!
     
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    If God Ginrai is next I could see them doing micro- pretenders to homage the beginning of Masterforce. Perceptor with himself ,Bee, and Brawn. As well Astrotrain with Megatron and Starscream. Cyclounus and Galvatron and of course Huffer with Hoist. We see stuff like that and we can take a good guess with how they feel about going forward for plans like extending the minifigures.