MP-39: Masterpiece Sunstreaker

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  1. Silvershot

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    When transforming back to robot mode, I had the hardest time getting the windshield to rotate back without popping off. Then I figured it out - if you the windshield halfway around (or 90 degrees) so it is on his side, and the pull the hood off of his rear end and under his legs, and then flip the hip guards back, you can rotate the windshield the rest of the way with little to no problem. Hope that helps.
     
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    Pics or a video?
     
  3. Optimus Prime23

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    Isn't it supposed to be, "Pics or GTFO"? :p 
     
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  4. franpincho

    franpincho $449!!!!!!!!

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    I must have transformed mine 30+ times and there's absolutely nothing wrong with him. What a joy, none of the Carbots comes close to this.

    This is why I'm now selling all my Hasui/pre Magnus bots and dropping my Prowl + PO.

    I simply can not stand how dated all those are/feel in comparison. They are like bricks in my collection!

    Now now, I understand how this might not be a popular topic to some, but I have zero doubts TT will redo most of them anyway. You can't have Sunny with MP 12, you just can't. I simply don't care how you justify it, but they simply don't look good together. If you like it, that's totally fine. But they simply do not match.

    The seeker mold is a disgrace by today's standards, so I'm glad I sold those when they were worth something, same with MP-10. Bumblebee is passable, but that's it. Tracks seems OK so I might hold on to it.
     
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    I have to disagree with you - the only superarticulated non-Hasui bots are ?Inferno, Hot Rod 2.0, Megatron, and Sunstreaker. And Hot Rod 2.0 has enought other problems that prevent it from being a great figure, IMO. You would have to dump the remainder. Even the vanettes are on par with the Hasui bots, articulation-wise. I agree with you that the seeker mold is very outdated though- even some design choices at the time it was released are questionable. That being said, I don't see what's wrong with MP18, 20, 21, and 27. You certainly won't get something so vastly improved as to warrant replacing it, IMO.

    Good luck waiting for TT to redo everyone and finish the ark crew- at the current rate it will take another 10 years. And by then, Sunstreaker will be out of date and you will have to dump your collection again. Do Soundwave, Prowl, Wheeljack, Bee, and Ironhide really need to be able to hold a gymnastic/ yoga pose?
     
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    I think you and I have different definitions for a "brick."
     
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    Woah, I can understand expecting Sideswipe to be redone, but damn. I sold off almost all my pre MP-21 bots awaiting + releases, but 20+ and 18+ will more than satisfy me. Skipping 17+ is cray cray.

    No need to refer to the Seekers as Hasui bots either as that was Kobayashi reclaiming MP-3 from Kawamori's changes.

    Also BWF for what it's worth he didn't mention selling Ironhide.
     
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    I know- only reason I mentioned Ironhide was that it was a non-Hasui bot similar in articulation to the Hasui bots since there is the insinuation that Kobayashi bots are somehow vastly superior. The only 2 G1 bots that are a level above the rest appear to be megatron and sunstreaker
     
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    I think the vanettes have better articulation anyway then the Hasui's bots surprisingly
     
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    How so? As much as I like Ironhide, I think his posing is definitely limited (Definitely less than MP20 and MP21, IMO) in the arms (partially by his large chest)
     
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    They are better off than the earlier bots, somebody did a review for Sunstreaker and compared some of the other bots
    Masterpiece 39 Sunstreaker
     
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    His ball-jointed head goes a long way in giving him more expressiveness. His knee swivel is also nice in giving him more balance (same as MP-10, but missing from the new Prime). Apart from that, nothing extra than Bumblebee and Wheeljack (but at least he and Ratchet can sit down, unlike MP-10 and MP-17).
     
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    Don’t forget how his ankle tilt and wide feet help with stability. He can pull off a one legged running pose whereas the others cannot. Bumblebee maybe can too
     
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    You know, we don't see eye to eye on many things, but it's all good.

    I think that the Van Bros are way ahead of anything before it in terms of articulation and most importantly to me, in terms of cartoon accuracy. Yeah, the hips are unfortunate (that 3P kit is GREAT).

    Look, what we had was and is great, but based simply on personal taste, it just doesn’t compare to what we are getting. Yeah, newer means better but not necessarily.

    Arcadia does their Macross valks all the same. Insane articulation, great transformations and amazing cartoon accuracy. They all share the same idea, and they all come at a high price. Very, very high.

    What I personally believe is that this is the way the line will go forward, and while unfortunate (price), it is a positive change IMO.

    TT can now do what other JP companies do and release cartoon accurate bots with very sophisticated transformations and articulation that’s not only about yoga poses, but much, much more. Budget is no longer an issue.

    What I want is irrelevant, I simply know that some of the previous bots will be redone, it only makes sense.

    An ultra articulated Soundwave/Strascream/Wheeljack would sell much more copies than a Dinobot. And I can’t wait.

    Maybe. And that’s fine.

    I just think that those MP’s are simply not good enough anymore.
     
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  15. mx-01 archon

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    Not really, unless your point of reference is MP-10, who can't move his hips and knees 90 degrees. Ironhide's about the same as everyone else before him. Slightly less than Prowl & Co, even, since their shoulder transformation affords them some extra movement. Ironhide and Ratchet don't have any of the extra bells and whistles of the latest figures. No ab crunch or multi-jointed elbows and knees, no multi-directional shoulders. The only signs of the "new" articulation style in them is pull-out neck joint.
     
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    Bee and Jack can definitely pull off the one legged pose because of their wide feet and ankle tilts
     
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    Oh none of the new fancier stuff but for the Vanettes to be as blocky as they are probably on par overall with the Datsun and Lambor molds. It's obvious articulation was not such an obvious priority with the first few bots. For them to be sleeker cars they didn't turn out as articulate as guys like Hot Rod and even Tracks (if you know how to use him). It's probably just me but I have the hardest time posing them on the shelf doing "nothing" meaning not holding a gun like they are about to enter a firefight or a b@dasss-so heroic pose. I think the other bots feel a little more natural with the poses you can pull off during "nothing".
     
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    Prowl can nearly do the one leg run pose as well, but his heels are a bit too hollow. For me the biggest issue I have with the older bots is the head articulation. Ball joints give an emotive quality that the swivels can't match. Thankfully, Sunstreaker has one (and a bit of an actual neck as well). If Hot Rod had a ball joint head I'd be
     
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    Hot Rod is one ball-jointed neck and two interchangeable faces away from being one of my favourites. So close!
     
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    Not to mention the quality on the TT seekers are terrible for their price tags. In that regard they do need a do over from Takara.
     
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