More detailed pics of Optimus knockoff....

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by godsenddeath, Jan 30, 2006.

  1. Crobot91

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    Man, these knock-offs are pretty impressive with respect to the level of detail; with the obvious exception being the price. It's pretty hard to tell the difference from an untrained eye (i.e. most comic book/toy/collectible store dealers that I've dealt with).

    I bought the Frenzy/Lazerbeak knock-off a while back for a reasonable amount, $40 CAD, (the dealer made me aware of its deception prior to me purchasing it) and I've got to tell you that it looks amazing from a display point-of-view (which I guess the whole point of these figures are), but the prices are sometimes too high. I found another dealer trying to sell the same F/L knock-off for $180 CAD and he thinks (or pretends to think) it's legit (I've told him otherwise; although he has yet to reduce the price).

    I wouldn't mind seeing knock-offs of Mirage, Ironhide, Ratchet, and Sunstreaker released. I would ignore the moral issue of purchasing these since Takara and Hasbro insist most of these will never be re-issued because they've "lost" the molds (so it only seems fair to upgrade beat-up 80's versions with fairly accurate knock-offs like Frenzy in those most economical manner, as long as you don't try to re-sell it as vintage, of course).
     
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    well, i dont think many have surfaced yet, so i doubt most people is getting this one. Although if they are $50 like the previous seller, they would sell like hot cakes
     
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    I'm amazed these are selling for $150--its a cool, well made KO, but it is still a KO. Actually, there haven't been any reports of just how sturdy these are, have there?

    I would pay $50 for one, just because it would be cool to have for display, but not more.
     
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    Last I heard from Bickmore, he was still in denial insisting that all these "bootlegs" were either official Chinese releases or genuine vintage variants.
     
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    thats just the seller markup. Last week, another seller had some i thnk, for just $50

    $150 for a nice KO like this, is still extremely high
     
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    i'm not sure what's up with this, but if you look at the picture with the 2 figures, the one in the window has bigger pins holding in the front tires. The one with the yellow eyes has shorter pins.
     
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    I'm thinking about reporting him for charging 8% for Paypal. I'm pretty sure that's against policy.
     
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    If im not mistaken, all the reissue Prime´s were an Ultra Magnus hybrid, since he had those pins to combine with the trailer. And it was cheaper to make a single mold to produce two figures
     
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    Man, I'm scared about the -visual aspect- quality of this things.
     
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    you know what pisses me off, they didn't even bother using a g-1 Optimus Prime figure to make the knock off. They used the reissue mold with the wider front tires. That's just lazy. :( 
     
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    Is it possible that the people who bought these didn't pay enough attention and thought they were real? I mean seriously, you could buy a real Prime for that much.
     
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    So, the only relatively easy way to tell these KOs apart from reissue Primes are the smokestacks? I'm thinking I'm missing something obvious since the first post states 'glaring omissions'
     
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    The auction mentions a future "all metal" version. That would be cool.

    I wonder if these things are "lunch break specials".
     
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    Although the seller gives the option to choose either version, i would say one of the primes pictures might be a real deal... just to show how official it look, otherwise, both would look exactly the same, specially the pins
     
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    Some of the coustom ones might have to be mine, Damnit I'm turning into the open box Elvin.
     
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    I like the blue eyes and chest look. Looks great in box for a bootleg. But like others said before me way too much.
     
  18. Elvin Pena

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    Hmmm... I'll have to talk to him about that one. Anything, and I mean A*N*Y*T*H*I*N*G, can be reproduced in China if you have two things:

    1) Money: Without it no factory (or small shop, it doesn't have to be a huge production) will take your "job"; plain and simple. It takes some time and capital to create molds and purchase material.
    2) Factory/Shop: No matter how much money you have you need to find a place to produce the product. It's not impossible as there are quite a few than can do it, it just take some time a patience to do so.

    I personally know folks that have ventured out and created stuff similar to this and it looks surprisingly real. Granted, a lot depends on the quality of work from the factory; they have to accurately reproduce the size and color of the figure and box, but it's certainly not impossible.

    EDIT: Another thing to notice is that all of the boxes for these KOs seem to have a bend at the flap in the rear. It's a clear sign that the machines being used to produce the boxes can't reproduce them without it. Granted, it may just be that these particular samples suffer from this "problem" but I personally think all of them will have that crease.
     
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    They most likely found or stole usable molds, because otherwise, the price would be extremely high to make new and accurate molds for such small runs