Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by Devastator21, Sep 30, 2017.
Many designs from JiYi are like that too.
Anyone able to give me a total height for this combined Assaultus (from the base of feet to its tallest point).
The right side panel of the cannon is a screw cover. You can apply a bit of force on the big protruding block to get a bit of leverage to start prying it out. It'll give you access to two screws once its off. I had no need to disassemble it further, so I have no clue what you'll encounter once you pop those out. 3Ps aren't frequently in the habit of gluing stuff down, though (sometimes to their detriment, even), so it'll probably be smooth sailing.
Apologies @samisham , no you are most certainly NOT chopped liver LOL! Personally I never take the time to check specific details such as gender of all the forum members I interact with. Makes me wonder how many female collectors frequent the boards....
Thanks for this info @mx-01 archon . I'm specifically looking to see if there's a way to crack open the olive rectangular block and remove the whole silver cannon assembly - without doing damage to anything in the process. Don't think it can be done to be honest - the olive block looks completely encased. Any photo's you could provide would be welcome though my brother!!!
By "olive rectangular block", you are referring to the main cannon body, yes? Because that's the assembly I was talking about.
Aha, gotcha. So the right side panel can be removed? Yes I see that now. Clearly the left is all moulded in as one piece. Were you able to remove the right side panel and if so how did you do it? Importantly, was anything scratched, scuffed or stretched to get it off?
Right side popped out with just a bit of coaxing, no tools required. Just sorta pushed at it, and one end started to pop out, and then I could lever it out completely.
No problem I just found it funny
Howdy all! So I've finally got Incursus in my pile of loot. The urge to ship him now is going to grow by the hour until I do it. Taking bets on how long I last
Has anyone received Probus lately? You guys correctly predicted the arrival of Incursus within the BBTS margin of delay! So I presume once ShowZ or EE starts getting Probus, my time will be drawing near.
Primus forgive me for what I'm about to do.
I'm planning on trying to disassemble Incursus' torso, to file down "the internal rails right above the main drive wheels". It seems that the toy-version chest plate won't QUITE snuggle down fully inside the torso, and prevents the "big blue cover" from closing all the way in truck and robot mode. I've done a lot of testing/investigating, and that does seem to be the issue---I'm thinking the "wings" on the silver chest-plate, are like 1mm longer than the toon version, and "hit those rails" too soon. If I bend the wings inward, so they "slip past the rails"---the chestplate sits THAT much lower, and "the big blue cover" literally clicks into place, perfectly---but that's clearly not the intended way for the wings to be, as it makes the wings sit at an awkward angled, stressed---and it means the waist plate absolutely can't fit in the chest any more as the chest-wings are now intruding on the space the waist-wings go. (everything is quite tight in there). So it has to be that the "wings" of the chest, are supposed to sit right above those rails, out of the way of the waist-wing-flaps, but the toy-version is slightly too long/tall to do so correctly. (it's too late to do any major work tonight, and it'll be easier to explain AFTER I've done it, and I can show some "after" pics)
(it does seem to be an inherent design/clearance issue, and not "my copy has a QC issue" etc) I'd guess few people have spent enough time with the toy-version chest in truck mode, or looked at the back of robot mode, to really notice/care that it doesn't close up as nicely as the toon-version way.
Does strike me as slightly odd there's an issue though, as the prototype/original design, is for the toy version chest. It should accommodate it "perfectly from the start".
Odd mine's always been able to close up just fine ever since I modded in the toy bits. Might just be some plastic flash on yours?
Just to be sure, you do know the hinge side of the blue panel covers up all the silver, while the other side is supposed to have a tiny amount of the silver exposed right? Because where it latches is deliberately sculpted to not extend as far down as where it hinges, the sides of the door panel are meant to be quite asymmetrical like that.
As long as the upper surface of the blue panel is perfectly aligned flat with the small little silver abdomen panel, its working as intended.
Four screws got me much more access than I expected. Took some pics:
Chest wing flap resting on top of rail:
Back panel closed as far as it will go:
Back panel with toon-style chest plate installed:
hmm, its only about 0. something something degrees off but yeah definitely seems its not as flat as it should be. Well then never mind me.
I'm curious if the "rails" are a vestigial feature? Maybe from when it originally had a different method for swapping toon vs toy chests? The groove in them seems to have a "purpose" and doesn't look like it's just to "save 0.05% plastic from the torso".
Oh the chest swapping was never part of the original design. You may recall Incursus having a major delay at one point and that was entirely due to mmc modifying how the center chest plate is attached so people could easily swap them out along with revising the shoulder connectors late in to him too. Incursus was originally going to release before Fraudo (he was the first proto along with Impetus after all) but Fraudo ended up finishing sooner because of this too.
The toy chest was actually going to be the only chest, but all the toon fans complained it wasn't toon accurate so the toon version of Incursus started being developed but then mmc concluded it would be a huge costly pain to sell two entire versions of the toy so Incursus ended up with a part set rather than two skews and the torso had to be adjusted to accommodate the part swapping.
This also lead in to Fraudo and Probus having their heels n toes adjusted to have the tab slots so the new shoes could attach to them. Another late addition to the project in reaction to complaints.
If you wanna check out some specific evidence of this, take a look at the old Fraudo test figure here, the toes don't have the notches cut in at the sides so this test copy would be incompatible with the addon feet:
I have the exact same problem as @David Hingtgen . Now debating whether to take mine apart and do some surgery with a small file too.
Is there anyone who bought the reissue of Incurus and the toy version of the chest stores just fine and the blue panel can lock in fine in truck mode?
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