As a fan of jet aircraft I put the Aerialbots right up there with them mainly due to Silverbolt. The limb jets do have a difference in length, but one which I could acceptably imagine being compensated through transformation. But a Concorde is 200+ feet long...that's 3-4 times the size of any limb.

Similar problem to Groove but in the opposite direction. I guess it all depends on your area of familiarity which one seems most jarring to you  

Edit: I'm sure I'm not the first, but I just realized that if you swapped Firelight with Skydive at least they'd make more sense since an F16 and Sea Harrier are around the same size and same with an F15 and an F4.

 

Ya, it’s probably not quite the same but similar enough comparing Motormaster to the cars as it would be with Silverbolt to the rest of the jets. Taking that thought to the next leap in logic: If the torso bots are closer to “actual” alt-mode scale compared to the limbs, that would give MMC a lot of volume to work with to make an all built in Menasor and Superion.
Your familiarity of the actual scales of the jets may be the spark of inspiration that MMC needs to tackle these two. haha  

 

Nope, you're not.   But you're absolutely correct about having the F-4 and F-15 as the legs, and the other 2 as the arms, makes a lot more sense, size-wise, if they're to scale.

 

If they do knock out alt scale (which I'm not picky about) with Superion and Menasor, it'll be a breeze to handle Computron and Abominus. Clearly none of those figures are based on anything real so they can be scaled however they want! We all win

And if any of you get on about whether the bipedal shark thing is supposed to be a different size than whatever Blot is supposed to be...

 

if you really want to get into the scale thing with Streetwise, what is impressive with Navigant is how close he is in size to MP Prowl - given that it’s basically the same car, just a bit updated (most notably in the bonnet). The wheels aren’t in the same place, but in comparison to Fuzz, which is noticeably fatter and bulkier than Prowl, MMC have dine a terrific job. (Incidentally I also thought they did good work in getting Medicus so close to Ratchet too in ambulance mode). I just wish that they’d been able to keep Swindle’s size down a bit back when they were making him, as he’s just too out of whack with any other cars.

 

That's why I love TFM Havoc. Using most of the trailer for combiner bits made a lot of sense and kept Motormaster from being really out of whack or with a lot of useless parts lying around when not combined. Although you get a ton of extra battlestation parts in bot mode...can't win em all, I guess.

Not sure how well that would work with a Concorde, though. It wouldn't be as easy to split naturally as a big, boxy trailer, nor would the slimness of a Concorde be ideal for hiding combiner parts. I'm going to have to think about how that could lay out...

 

Navigant def looks better than Fuzz, who i am keeping as my Streetwise despite that

Not sure what xtransbots was thinking with that one

 

Did Showz give a response if they could help ?

 

They aren’t the same car, though. Prowl is an S130 and Streetwise is a Z31. The latter was a completely revised Z car and doesn’t share body parts, platform, or engine type with its predecessor. Prowl’s 280ZX design has spiritual roots back to the late 60s, while Streetwise’s 300ZX was all-new for 1983. The wheelbase is similar— that’s about it.

 

No not yet, I sent it yesterday so it's probably Sunday over there. I do hope I hear something soon though, otherwise I'll have to eat the loss and buy another. I've never had anything stolen off my porch and I didn't want it to be this.

 

This thread has some entertaining pictures: The new "Transformers to scale" visualization thread

 

I.love your scale pics. Fun to see. Is Blades really larger than Hotspot in alt mode?

 

Damn, Streetwise is a damn good figure. So much fun.

 

They're not mine, but from the thread I mentioned at the second. (People, go and put your likes there instead!)

Helicopters are big things! Random googling suggests that the ratio should perhaps be even more.

 

So the gun for Navigant just gets plopped into the windshield area for alt mode storage? There had to have been room for a peg or way to fold it more to tab it in place. I'm only dinging him for it because every other all in one release so far has had gone out of their way for proper storage.

On the flipside the transformations are a breeze once you understand how the windshield slots into place. Efficient, intuitive, and clean. Please keep up that up.

 

The Iroquois is 57’ long, nose to tail. The Fuso Great fire truck is no more than 36’, probably a few feet less. The image is scaled pretty accurately.

 

The thing is there is a tab they could have used in there. The tab that holds the hood (or bonnet, cos UK here) in place in robot mode doesn't seem to have a use in alt mode and is in the perfect place to hold the gun.

Edit: just to clarify, in the grand scheme of things, this is totally inconsequential as Streetwise is a phenomenal figure, MMC working magic

 

That includes the rotor though---I wonder if the pic made the FUSELAGE as being 57ft. Need to take off about 15ft from the rotor length to get the "actual" length.

(I'm pretty sure the Concorde is too small, and Dragstrip may still be too big, I'm not trusting those pics 100%)

 

To be fair, the original poster of those pics mentioned they are close but may not be 100% accurate.

 

True— I was reading overall length. Fuselage alone is roughly 42’.

I think if anything, they depicted Drag Strip too small. Unless I’m mistaken, the Tyrell P34 is only 5% shorter than the Ferrari 308. The “rescaled” image shows it more like 15% shorter. It’s difficult to find length measurements on the race car, though, and I’m basing my calculations on 158”.

It’s all really a moot point when toy Megatron was (relatively) a giant handgun— larger than his jet lieutenant— and his toon alt was small enough to be held by that same robot. For all we TF collectors deliberate over scale, it’s arbitrary as hell.