there is an old saying, where hollywood seems to believe that kids can handle anything, as long as they give it a happy ending, and some kind of moral at the end. note; this thread is sure to have a lot of spoilers from random things, so be sure to use spoiler tags. But, that anything, can be pretty dark, and twisted sometimes. Like, Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children, which while, not really meant for a kids, it was definitely marketed as a kid’s film. But for a movie that was marketed towards kids, (even if it was pg 13.) it sure had it’s share of dark elements. like, Samuel L Jackson, Spoiler and his minions, tearing hunting down children with super powers, to kill them, by tearing out their eyeballs, and eating them. this is something that actually happens a few times within the film. Spoiler or the necromancer kid, and his army of skeletons, or creating living dolls out of dead babies, then having them fight to the death, for his own amusment, or the dead child he uses as a puppet. or, the Spoiler boat filled with dead bodies. then there is the BFG; (speaking of the 89 animated movie, not the spielberg version. as this isn’t in the newer version.) Spoiler with the giants eating an entire home filled with kids. and leaving their bones in a pile. which pretty much implies that not only were they eaten alive, but they were also stripped of their flesh as well. for kids! then there is; Once Upon a Time; which is an animated film, from the 70s, which opens with a character being introduced as; “this is Mr. Bottle, he loves his Daughter, he loves his dog, Spoiler but, most of all, he loves his bottle.” then he goes and hides behind a sheet. then there is Charlotte’s Web; either version. the plot of this movie is Spoiler a father having a 10 year old girl raising a pig as if it was her own baby, then selling said pig to his brother, who then plans to feed that pig back to her, at christmas. and the one with Dakota Fanning, where i am pretty sure her father is a serial killer, and made up for his lack of christmas ham, by eating her. there is the Nutcracker with Elle Fanning, with nazi rats, and the holocaust. There is the Madeline animated movie; the one where she is lost in Paris, where she is Spoiler sold into slavery by her uncle. or, do not even need to go that far into madeline, to realize there are some pretty messed up things going on. like the episode where she falls into the river off the bridge, and the dog saves her, the way the animation is animated, Spoiler it actually looks like Miss Clavel, PUSHED her off the ledge! and then the police are called in, and everybody basically just watches as they barely attempt to rescue her, as she sinks beneath the water. it looks like they want to save her, but they do not wish to get wet in the process. so, they don’t. the DOG has to do it all. then there is that Rainbow Brite movie, where the plot is an princess wants to steal the source of light for the entire universe, all for herself, by wrapping a net around it, ensuring that the entire universe freezes to death, including herself. and then Spoiler Rainbow Brite kills her, as said princess tries to destroy all the light in the universe by ramming her spaceship into it. KILLS her in a big giant rainbow beam of death. Superman 3; Spoiler superman leaves all the villains to die in a pile of rubble. not to mention the scene where he gets drunk. or the scene where he strangles himself. Return to Oz; the entire film. but, especially those wheelers. Willie Wonka and the Chocolate factory, the whole movie pretty much implies that the umpa lumpas are slaves. That tunnel of nightmares. Dark Crystal; the podlings who get their Spoiler life force drained, Kira too, and then Kira is stabbed to death at the end, after rescuing the crystal, but Jen gets all the credit. Watership Down; the entire film. The Hunchback Of Notre Dame (1996); which is about a priest who wants to force Esmeralda to marry him, because he blames her, for making himself attractive to her. All Dogs Go to Heaven; forget the Hell dream, which is pretty messed up, but the plot is about a selfish con artist dog, who breaks out of prison, and seeks revenge against his former partner. Who then DIES, and comes back, in order to seek MORE revenge. Uses a little girl for his own personal gain, and then plans to toss her out as soon as he’s had said revenge. You’d think that by the end of the movie that Charlie would have learned a lesson, but no, he actually doesn’t. The Wizard of Oz; the whole song about how wonderful it is somebody died. in the Chronicles of Narnia; you have the mostly naked goatman, who plans to kill Lucy, but only doesn’t, because he likes her at little too much. there are the carebear movies, which are pretty damn messed up if you think about it too. and this really isn’t just limited to Hollywood, as i have seen this time of stuff in comic books, and video games meant for kids as well. like I believe one issue of Power Pack, the yellow one gets tortured. and the in the Golden Compass, if you lose while playing the bear, it is strongly implied that Lyra gets eaten alive by wolves. Forget your horror films of today; There is more nightmare fuel in Return To Oz, than most horror films, for ADULTS, rated R, these days. if you want to get some true horror, just watch some films meant for kids! LOL especially from the 80s. a lot of messed up things were filmed for kids in the 80s.