Masterpiece HOUND MP-47

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by oku, Jul 28, 2018.

  1. Prime of Shadows

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    Do we even know if Willis and Hound are the same size? Hound could be smaller all around.
    Bruh.
     
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  2. divinecomedy

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    Well they SHOULD be the same size, unless someone got the measurement wrong. The holy scale chart needs to be respected!!!
     
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    Since you were the one who was making it into an 'us vs them', does that mean you're the TT fan? I really don't understand.

    Naturally the engineering is different from Willis. It's an entirely possible for Takara's design team to achieve a taller bot out of a smaller vehicle (just look at Ironhide). That doesn't mean Hound will be all that hollow in robot mode, he'll still contain the seats, rear launcher, five tyres and jerry can (all of which aren't visible in robot mode).
     
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  4. [Wing_Saber-X]

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    Deep cover TT fan are we now? ;) 
     
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  5. Gamerlingual

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    Versus theme not needed, please. It’s going overboard

    Back on topic to Hound, thanks.
     
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    The only problem I see with making a comparison between Hound and Willis at the moment is that they are not side-by-side in the same physical space. We show can off pictures til Hound comes out but it will never give us an honest answer to the question of which one is bigger. Sam’s right about Ironhide and Hound being in the same shot. The action pose and not being on the same plane won’t give us an honest answer either. I think what will really give us any clue is when we figure out if the thighs compress into the lower legs or just sits underneath.

    TT has solved the hollowness problem with Ironhide/Ratchet as well as the small vehicle size and the large robot which is a great feat of engineering. I’m surprised anyone is even slightly worried about Hound being hollow since we seen a lot of angles of him already. Looking at how dense Sunstreaker is, I’m not worried about Hound being hollow.
     
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  7. TheWarPathGuy

    TheWarPathGuy "Someone has to do the fun stuff." - Moon Knight

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    Looking at Hound, I hate the fact on his Deflaut face his mouth is slightly opened. Why can\'t he just have a straight face?
     
  8. Sam

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    I think you're confusing it with his smiling face?

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    Which unlike other smiling MPs so far, doesn't have the mouth open too wide.

    This is his stock face:

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    Mouth closed.
     
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    He does look a bit pouty
     
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    Thighs can be seen hiding behind the front wheels in these shots. At first glance they could be mistaken for the midriff component, but there’s a line indentation towards the top of the thigh that can be seen in the open-hood photo. This means the thigh lies flat along the bottom of alt mode, so it doesn’t compress into the shin.
     
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    I can see the line on the thigh in the first picture. This allows the lower legs to have that slim look. I like.

    After thought, the rivets in the knees allows the lower legs to rotate 360*. So the leg transformation will be a 180* turn like Ironhide’s legs. I should have figured that out earlier.
     
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    You know, I just realized right after I posted them. As most of the pictures had the smiling face.

    Like a newborn baby
     
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    Yup, we need that below-the-knee rotation because the taillights are on the inside of the feet in robot mode, and need to be moved to the outsides for jeep mode.
     
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    That also allows the wheel wells to end up on the inside of the feet, I suspect!
     
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    Hard to believe that Alternators/Binaltech are already about 15 years old (!!) at this point, and not to take away the awesomeness of them back at that time, but how crazy it was that THIS was our mindblowing 'near perfect' Hound at the time...

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    Still my all time favorite Alternator, but goddamn, the Masterpiece version can't get here soon enough. :) 
     
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    Yeah I should have noted the pin’s purpose earlier too. Makes total sense since the car components on the foot need to be in the opposite direction.
     
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    I sold all my Binaltech figures with 3 exceptions I just couldn't bare to let go of... Hound, Jazz (the white RX-8) and Smokescreen (the original BT-01!).
     
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    Random musings about the transformation. Sorry if any of this is repeating what's already been discussed!

    1) The long rectangular panels on the outside fronts of the shins look very similar to the long panels beneath the "doors" in Jeep mode. Furthermore, in Jeep mode, the panels are neither toy, cartoon, nor real-life accurate, so they seem like robot kibble. However, they don't appear to be trapezoids in Jeep mode like they are in robot mode, but everything else seems to match, even the subtle curvature to the long edge! Any thoughts on how this could be, or are they just two different panels that coincidentally look the same?

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    2) I think I see some tire + hubcab tucked inside the back. Don't know if it's spare tire or one of the rear wheels. In the closeup I tried to lighten everything to make it more visible. Hard to say though, could be a seat or something entirely different.

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    3) I think I might also spy the rear gun mount joint hidden inside the foot:

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    To add to what we can see:

    Based on how the seat appears to be attached to the side panel in the blue circle here:

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    And we can see the hinge connecting the 'doors' to that panel (red circles)

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    The seats have to be folded up inside Hound's chest (in the space left behind by his arms and head from jeep mode).


    Also, I think the pin in purple is the same between modes.

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    While we know the head folds under the hood, I think the armature sits between the two passenger seats, and the shoulder launchers sits underneath that

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  20. lord ginrai

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    I think you're right about the hinge in the foot. Which means that the wheel we saw in his other foot is most likely the spare tire. His rear wheels must end up somewhere in his shins then.

    Such a crazy transformation!
     
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    hollow feet! Cancel!
     
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