Marvel's The Eternals

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  1. Deathcatg

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    I just finished it too after work. I thought it was interesting, but not what I expected from mainly only being familiar with Jack Kirby's original series.
    The Eternals revealed as some sort of artificial beings, Ikaris becoming the misguided main antagonist, The Deviants not being sentient to the point that Kro gaining any sort of sentience became a major plot point when some of the fun of the comic was the Deviants having their own society and culture and feeling some resentment with Eternals and Humans because they're now "the ugly people" (no probably no other notable representatives like Karkas or Ransak the Reject showing up in the MCU), Hell Kro being an large red herring and his comic relationship with Thena just briefly homaged because he had the memories of Gilgamesh in him, and none of the aspects of introducing the concepts of who the Eternals or Deviants are to modern society or introducing them to the scopes of Celestials till the very end, and it seemed like hardly anyone noticed. I guess a second movie would revolve more around the Coming of the Celestials aspect Kirby's series had, but after the reception this film is getting, it's hard to tell they'll get their own proper sequel.
    I got wordier than I expected, I guess I went in expecting this to be the movie that showed the world the imagination of Jack Kirby as a writer as well as an artist. We got some of that, but feels like it didn't have the main brushstrokes Kirby wrote in.
    Despite my writings here, I did enjoy it, just didn't love it liked I hoped. I guess I can always reread the Kirby comics.
     
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    They should have let Richard Madden (Ikaris) smile more.
     
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    Ok so my thoughts on the movie.

    I liked how the characters were depicted, their acting, their dynamic and their nuances. I also don't see how people felt the need to blame Phastos for Hiroshima, his want is to help humans evolve in technology, he gave them nuclear energy to do so. It was the humans who turned that gift into a bomb, not him.

    I didn't mind any of the changes they made it them, it made sense for the MCU.

    I loved how Airshem was portrayed and thought the truth reveal was very well done.

    I don't think the flashbacks bogged anything down cause they helped further explain the characters and moved the present day plot. Movie looked great too.

    I actually prefer these versions of the Deviants, much cooler in my eyes as well as their concept. Kro got kind of sidelined though but still like his Frankenstein's Monster/Prometheus vibe he had going on. GF and I beleive though that since their original purpose was to eradicate apex predators to allow human evolving, it would have been cool if it was more deliberate that they started to evolve to hunt Eternals, which was how it was handled but if it was more focused on we think it would have been cooler. But small complaint.

    I'm also really excited from both after credit scenes. I thought they both were handled well.
     
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    With Doc Ock back in his native universe and Ajak dead real early on, looks like I gave up on the MCU having a mini "Frida" reunion.
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    That's about where I'm at. I just watched it, and its in the bottom 3 of the MCU for me.
     
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    @Autoboticon I pretty much agree with everything you said.

    I didn’t hate this movie. In fact I’d dare say I enjoyed it more then The Dark World. Visually and action wise, I’d say this was one of the best MCU movies in that regard. Only place I thought it looked bad was Pip the troll…

    The action was easily among the most superhero like in the MCU by far, it felt like superpowered beings were throwing down. NTM, this seemed like one of the most violent MCU movies to date, what with how many times someone got stabbed or what not.

    Characters, surprisingly, I didn’t hate any of them either. The problem was that they needed more fleshing out. Their long history on Earth needed more coverage, which is why I hope they can make a prequel series to this.

    Celestial’s, IMO they really captured the godly power and scale of the Celestials. I was in awe whenever there was a scene focusing on them.

    Speaking of which, the ending, I really do hope that they follow this up. Because that can’t be just ignored. NTM, Starfox’s debut, that needs explanation. Since apparently Thanos is connected to Eternals after all… if anything it makes me want them to give us Thanos’ backstory again… the introduction of Starfox also explains why that Thanos backstory novel from a few years back was rendered non-canon shortly after it’s announcement…

    Still, I hope they follow up the stuff set up here, as the message at the end says “Eternals will return”. But I can’t help but have my doubts…

    So yeah, I can see why people didn’t like this. But I was not one of them, even though I thought the second half was stronger then the first.
     
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    Watched it and not knowing anything about the eternals, I enjoyed it. Being such a big team, it felt they gave ample screen time to all. Action was good and story decent. While it didn’t feel much connected to rest of MCU, felt like those arm bands and the deviants could’ve been connected to shang chi? Meh maybe just over thinking it
     
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    I think this is a big part of why a lot of people didn't care for it. There wasn't a single character in the movie that we'd seen before in the MCU. When you have 13 years of inter-connected movies, having one with no existing characters show up can be off-putting.
     
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    I don't feel that,

    this to me felt like a center point for the MCU and the things to come.
     
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    I feel like this film lost all the charm of Jack Kirby's original run. It tried too hard to translate to film, and in the process, lost all the Kirby charm, even after Thor Ragnarok proved that the Kirby style works perfectly on film with the right art direction. Hell, Hela's portals were bordered by the Kirby Krackle. But Eternals has none of that. Even the Celestials just look like colorful rocks. Kudos to David Kaye's Arishem, though.
     
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    That thumbnail reminds me that again, I certainly don’t regret seeing Arishem on an IMAX screen.

    I also agree, Druig sucks.

    And that while this was bad, I will remember the good stuff from here far more than I remember the good stuff from something like Thor 2 and Iron Man 2.
     
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    Funny enough, Hayek's final outfit when she's in full Ahak mode is probably the most faithful look they had compared to the rest (though The Celestials themselves aren't bad in still being recognizable)
     
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    Looks great, but they were not going to put Salma Hayek in a costume where you can’t see her face. Otherwise, like every other Marvel hero, she would have lost her headgear quickly.
     
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    Yeah that’s a nope from me. They’re going to make a bunch of pointless, clueless critiques about the film and missing what actually was wrong with it.
     
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    Cinemasins is just clickbait at this point.
     
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    CinemaWins is better.
     
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    Yeah, I’m not the target audience for these videos. Kinda tired of pointless nitpicks with played out humor.
     
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