Discussion in 'Transformers 3rd Party Discussion' started by Tronimus, Oct 26, 2016.
I'm in the market for one of these, but only one.
Which is better/sturdy in combined mode?
You do realize that they aren't even in the same scale level right?
I would be more concerned about how either fits in your collection. Maketoy's Computron consist of deluxe sized limbs and large voyager torso. Warbotron's are voyager limbs with roughly leader sized torso.
Generally speaking the smaller scaled combiners have been a bit more stable. This is primarily due to the fact that although the scales have been different, the general engineering of the combinations have been similar and use similar technology. For example the ratchets used on larger combiners are still plastic and function the same way the smaller combiners do. Yet each ratchet has to hold more weight due to the larger limbs.
That said they aren't entirely floppy messes. Both of my Warbotron combiners stand and pose like champs.
So I'll refer back to my initial comment of being more concerned about how either fits in your collection. If your collection is entirely CHUG with CW combiners then I would say Maketoy's would fit better. If you have larger voyager displays like I do, then Warbotron's would fit better. But that's just my opinion.
agree with Razor if it's about a combiner fitting into your collection. Had Computron and sold it and replaced with Warbotron Computron. Maketoys Comp had an awesome bow and he does look very nice. It was fiddly trying to pose the bow but once you have it set it is nice. Maketoys Comp is less expensive, but if money is not an issue Warbo Brut is just that. Looks imposing and love how it looks. The main issue was with Blastoffs legs/hips as the elbow not being able to support the weight of the gun when the arm is extended. You won't go wrong either way, just a matter of money and size.
No contest for me. Computron is fun. Warbotron is a terrible figure.
Your best bet is to watch numerous reviews. They are very different so Im sure you'll find a preference in size, aesthetics, or functionality.
If you still cant decide but are sure you want one of them, go with the cheaper option?
There may even be some great Black Friday deals coming. Options are a good thing. Good luck!
While I don't have MT Computron, I disagree that Warbotron Bruticus is a terrible figure. To each their own I guess. It isn't without its faults, but it looks fantastic on a shelf and is reasonable posable for what it is. You also have the option of going with the KO Warbo stuff which makes it even more palatable.
With all that being said, they really are two different scales and I suppose it really depends on who you intend to display this with and how you have your collection set up.
I have both, and I prefer Quantron in general - the size makes it easier to pose and enjoy, the combiner parts are more compact and easy to work with, the vehicles and individual robot modes are very nice and unique, and it is more cohesive in combined mode. The box set will probably drop to $250 around the holiday, and he's a total steal at that price. I bought the individual robots separate rather than the box set, and I had none of the fit or breakage issues that happened with the early box set release.
I like Warbotron Bruticus just fine, he's an excellent representation of the character and the robots are very good - Swindle and Blast Off in particular. You can bash a combined big cannon emplacement out of the combiner mode feet, hands and big gun, and it fits on the Onslaught trailer. I'm not as big a fan of the combined mode though, the arm ratchets are weak, and certain parts don't lock down as well as I'd like, the Bruticus head and back cannons particularly.
You could get the Machine Boy versions of WB Bruticus, which are different colors but very similar quality, and there's supposed to be an Onslaught that matches coming soon. Those are pretty reasonable for the four limb bots, you could get all four for $100 or so.
Of the 3rd party combiners I've completed, I probably enjoy Quantron the most. Well worth the price.
I personally went with Quantron. I'm 4 deep into TFC combiners, and 4 deep into MT/FP (Quantron, Guardia, Giant, Intimidator) 5 if you count Colossus and 6 if you count Rex. As cool as Warbotron's Bruticus looked at the time, it was a bit too busy for my taste and didn't have enough to convince me to commit to a new scale of combiners.
The combiner ankle ratchets for Bruticus tend to break pretty quickly. You might still be able to find a pair of the replacements that were made here in a more durable plastic, but the last run of those was a while ago now. There was never an official fix, to my knowledge. At least with Quantron, all necessary fixes were made by MT.
If you're willing to sacrifice poseability, the KO Bruticus is a decent and very affordable option over Warbotron's. I know the MT's Computron limbs are on the tricky side to transform. I'd watch some of Skullface's reviews on YouTube and then consider price with the scale you want before committing.
I own almost every third party combiner and he's one of the best K thx! ! ! !
I thought this was Quantron vs. Warbotron's Computron.
There's a couple of things to keep in mind. Scale is one thing but also design. Warbotron's Bruticus and Computron are more meant to be updates on the G1 figures while retaining a lot of the G1 look and feel to them, only taller. They're transformations are rather simple and the bots look good to me. Sure, there are issues with the QC aspect (a growing pains of sorts), but honestly, I liked the Bruticus set. More so than their Computron set.
With Maketoys Quantron, you're not exactly getting a G1 set. Don't get me wrong, it's still the Technobots with their various alt-modes and recognized combination, but this is Maketoys take on the characters, which means that their figures are going to be rather different than how they look compared to their official counterparts. Which I'm fine with because Blindfire (Not-Strafe) and Sonic Drill (Not-Nosecone) look fantastic to me. That said, the transformation is going to be a mix bag between "Huh, that does make sense" to "How is that a thing?"
But in the end, it's about scale. Maketoys is more of a CHUG while Warbotron is more MP.
I have Warbotron's Computron, and he is very nice and sturdy. The only thing that bugs me a bit is the partsforming for Scattershot.
I had both and sold them, but Quantron I regret selling. Unlike Warbotron, I never worried about it toppling over. Warbotron fell from my shelf a few times, the ankle joints are simply junk on that thing and the weight distribution felt uneven.
Agreed, he has a seriously big parts bag. Also, computron is just not as cool looking. There's a shapeways chest plate that's pretty great looking even if it's really imposing.
Quantron was my first 3p combiner, and he's also still my favorite... ok, maybe tied with Guardia. He just looks so damn high techy lol. Especially with the transparent orange bits all over. He is also _very_ short. I think M3/Menasor is the only guy smaller. My current shelves are 13" tall, so he fits on one nicely. If you have space constraints, WB is yoooooge.
If you decide on him (which you really should for his current price... he's not going to be around forever), make sure you get him from a place that includes the extra replacement parts (bbts does). Also, I would suggest picking up the shadow fisher kit for him, because having the ability to arrange his back parts and add the waist articulation with the cannon are both very nice.
I have quantron and he is great. definitely fun and can be put into great poses.
Warbotron's combiners are interesting, but they always struck me as too large to fit in well with Hasbro's CHUG stuff, and too small and greeblie-y to go along with MP figures, so they're sort of in a group on their own.
I'm a big fan of Quantron. I love how the robots are all very different transformations, and represent a range of complexities. With the replacement parts in place, he's fantastically poseable and fun to put through his various shapes. I'm also a huge fan of the super-techy motif given the figures, which I think renders the official versions a bit bland by comparison.
I have both warbos and maketoys computrons and warbos brut.
I'll take brut every time, no hesitation. LOVE this figure(s).
I own both sets, no comparison whatsoever. Quantron is infinitely more so a vastly higher quality product than Warbo's set and is better designed and aesthetically vastly superior and so way way higher in value and much more satisfying to own and handle. To really nail that home, my warbo brut is now among my four "regretful" combiner purchases and has been put in storage along with tfc uranos, ares and tw dinoking.
If you want to waste your money on a deeply flawed set with numerous qc issues, go warbo. Want a near-flawless incredible rock solid set? quantron is the only choice.
Warbo's certainly can't pull off awesome poses like this.
And maybe some day you'll be able to grab the even more incredible guardia to stand beside him.
Also goodluck to anyone seeking fixes for any warbo products, they disbanded over a year ago and their is zero support for their stuff now. They regrouped under the name GenerationToys (and got themselves a much better designer thankfully) and began working with a new factory and so have much higher standards now, but their two original sets? avoid if possible I say.
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