Maketoys MTRM-9 Downbeat ( MP Jazz )

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  1. oku

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    Why would anyone offers you $500 for one when they can buy two of them with that money.
     
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    I always consider Prowl number 2 after Prime. Although Jazz was clearly number two in more than meets the eye.
    In my head it’s
    1Prowl
    2 Jazz
    3 Bluestreak
    4 Ironhide
    5 Ratchet
    6 Wheeljack
    7 Sunstreaker
    8 Sideswipe
    9 Hound
    10 Mirage
    11 Trailbreaker


    But that’s just how I group them. Not necessarily by rank
     
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    Tech Specs lists Prowl's rank at 9, Jazz at 8.
     
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    I guess I always went by how it came off in the mini series cartoon but considering we allow mass shifting with no problem, expecting a clear chain of command....yeah. Not gonna happen.
     
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    For the original 18 Ark-bots:

    Basically, Prime is in charge. Everyone else is a specialist or a grunt. Some of the specialists can act as small unit commanders.

    Ironhide is Prime's aide and bodyguard.
    Prowl is his chief strategist and XO
    Jazz is in charge of special ops, and will command special ops units if it is a task that he cannot do on his own
    Wheeljack, Ratchet, Huffer - Specialists
    The rest are soldiers, some with specializations, such as scout, air defense, infiltration, demolition, etc

    There could be an argument that Trailbreaker is a defensive strategist. However, I have never seen Prime consult defense with him in either the cartoon or the comics, so I think the title is a mere honorific.
     
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    So is it pretty much set in stone that MakeToys isn't reissuing this?
     
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    At this point, it sure seems like it. I find it strange since Downbeat sold pretty well in their lineup and is one of their better releases. It would be a shame if they don't reissue Downbeat at least one more time.
     
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    Maybe they are just waiting until the Ricochet/Bounceback figure dries up? When was it released? Doesn't seem like it's been that long. If they were going to reissue anything it would be Downbeat.
     
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    Maybe they're planning to put proper stripes on him and do away with the awful red chest rash.
    Already I set myself up for disappointment.
     
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    I'm convinced Downbeat will be reissued. Otherwise the other company that copied Ricochet will do it.
     
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    I don't know much about ranks. Jazz seems to be second-in-command in MTMTE, but never afterwards. Seems like Ironhide is Prime's best friend.
     
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    As far as I know, Jazz and Orion Pax were good friends
     
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    I knew I remembered him looking funny. I would have bought him if he looked like your version
     
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    Stock, he's not great...but for the price ($35 or less) it's not bad to throw on the shelf. If you want an actual toy, though...he kinda sucks. He feels like a mediocre KO. All things equal, I'd much rather have XTB's...but all things aren't equal. XTB's currently runs $70...and is still who knows how far from release. With various discounts and eBucks, I think I paid around $25 out of pocket for ACE. Good enough...
     
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    Don't know why. Coolsville/Jazzy is a REALLY good figure at 2/3 the price. Neither are perfect. Downbeat plays well but looks completely unfinished with no paint or chrome or decos. Coolsville/Jazzy is difficult to transform, has the head flap and gaps in the forarms but looks AMAZING with EVERYTHING painted and all the decos. Had Downbeat. Sold him after getting ZETA Jazzy. To each their own.
     
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    He is not unfinished, he has the exact amount of paint to mirror the toon. It's just a different style to what toyworld went for but it doesn't mean they were lazy or downbeat is lacking anything
     

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    I thought it was smart to make it toon, and let the people (like myself) add decals for all the missing stuff if you do not care for the plain toon design.
    Heck, the Reprolabels were ready to go before the figure was released. They were planning it that way.
     
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    "Toon" to a "fault" is still a "fault" and that is my opinion. I NEVER said that Maketoys was "lazy". I said that Downbeat "looks" unfinished. Prior to Downbeat, Maketoys used paint and chrome and physical detail. Proof is all the people adding stickers, decals, paint and even chrome to their Downbeats. You like it as is, that's cool. I didn't and that's cool too. :) 
     
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    Definitely needed some Repro love.

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    What he needed was blue headlights. I hate it when companies make a figure and it's so blatantly in your face off from the characters model. Maybe they did it because the car had smoked lenses or because this is what makes it "Not Jazz". Love the figure but I hate having to slap labels on stuff...they yellow and peel over time. I got Jreams set for his lights...blue vinyl. Hope they last.