Lockdown looking for Galvatron (and maybe stinger) theory

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  1. moylan55

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    All the TFs have hologram drivers they can conjure and I'm not saying he'd just be driving around aimlessly he could drive somewhere and hide instead of being bought for scrap by a human he doesn't know and then towed away to the guys house. if he wasn't deactivated why would he let these things happen to him?
     
  2. sawwheeler

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    Then how come the Autobots never did any of that in the movies? Only the
    Decepticons ever used them

    Edit: on a side note, none of us are budging. So let's just call it quits, I'm staying on my side. Even if I am wrong.
     
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    Think at a some point lockdown is going to need help searching.

    He either works with KSI or decides to use his own know how to convert human made transformers to his side.

    I am guessing KSI and him find reason to work together. He is hunting transformers, KSI hates transformers, reasonable enough.

    We see that one lead KSI agent and Marky Mark looking to have a fight. seems to be latter in the movie so they are still on opposite sides, not like Tucci who seems to have seen the error of his ways and is willing to help.

    Bit of a guess there as the clips are short for sure but lends itself to KSI remaining bad guys all throughout film.
     
  4. nametaken

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    autobots did in ROTF, the bikes had human hologram riders.
     
  5. moylan55

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    Because they usually had actual humans in them, but seeing how Prime recreated Cybertron for Sam and Mikaela I don't think its much of a stretch to think he and the rest of the autobots had the ability as well. Do you honestly think creating a small hologram of a human is so advanced that only Decepticons can figure out how to do it?

    I'm not saying your theory can't be possible just that you're providing zero evidence to support it. and this response indicates your just arguing to argue.

    that's right I forgot about that thanks nametaken. yea and even without that scene is pretty clear that wasn't a Decepticon only ability to begin with
     
  6. Finchfan000

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    The main question is: once Lockdown has Optimus, why does he stay? Something must sidetrack him or he is looking for something else on Earth. For some reason he thinks Optimus must know the location of whatever he is looking for.
     
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    Prime got really depressed when everyone he knew began to die around him, and he had nothing else to live for.

    True story.
     
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    It's just what I believe, I believe that it might just be a normal Cybertronian reaction, is there any real evidence of that a jump start caused to a Cybertronian, if I'm wrong I will gladly admit it.
     
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    I think that Lockdown wants Galvatron to lead the human-made TFs in war with the Autobots and humans so they can destroy eachother as the Autobots did with the Decepticons once did.So the ancient relic will be delievered to his master,he has some throphies,parts from dead TFs and some weapons.
     
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    I think hes after galvatron too. I think its majorly got something to do with lee bing bing 'the mother ' but as for prime.....my opinion is that he was somehow experimented on by ksi and the result left him weak i also believe he had been cloned atbthis point (which kind of explains the black prime kreo) also the result left him worried about being found so rusty evasion mode was perfect way to conserve energon and because of the clones similar appearance maybe that's why he adopts the new looks!!????
     
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    This actually makes a lot of sense.
     
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    What if lockdown is on earth to remove the impure transformers (human made transformers) and he finds prime first because he knows of his presence on earth and takes him on his ship to torture him for information.After that he dumps prime in a forest where the dinobots are eventually located and goes to the city where the KSI head quarters are located so that he can destroy the city and the company with once and far all.

    (Sorry about the grammar)
     
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    That would also be quite good, but wouldn't he have then enlisted Prime? Also why would he stop him from killing Galvatron?
     
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    There are a few complications with that theory, as good as it is:

    1: Optimus has a bounty on his head so Lockdown, Bounty Hunter that he is, would not just dump Optimus off of his ship, he'd keep Optimus to claim his reward.

    2: Even if he does dump Optimus off, Optimus seems to have gotten his shield and sword on Lockdown's ship (based off of the timeline shown thus far from the trailers). I don't think Lockdown would give a former prisoner weaponry.

    3: If anything, the Human-made Transformers appear to be drones more than sentient beings, so Lockdown would theoretically just want to take control of them for his own benefit or his employer/master's benefit.

    My guess is that Lockdown doesn't necessarily give the Human-made Transformers sentience, but merely takes control over them and becomes their leader using some tech he's accumulated, whether it be something in/on his ship or something on himself.
     
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    I dont think he is after prime, i think its got something to do with the bag that tucci and cade are seen running with

    I think prime just gets in the way
     
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    According to recorded dialogue, Optimus does indeed have a price on his head.
     
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    Indeed it seems as though he ends up with one. However i am not too convinced he begins with one i think he earns one as the film progresses, as i don't understand why he would choose to fight lockdown and the human element on two fronts and also the possibility of a third in galvatron still being sentient and on earth with the remaining autobots, seems a strange move leaving the team to deal with all that without his leadership.....i dont know why instead they didn't just find a way of leaving earth together. I could be wrong but i think lockdown escapes to fight another day and prime knowing he will return for him leaves quickly.
     
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    That.
     
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    I'd say that Prime, along with all other Cybertronians, have prices on their heads from the very start of the movie. It starts with the evil humans working for KSI, who are hunting them down and murdering them. Then Lockdown arrives and the price on Prime's head doubles.
     
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    All right, let's all restart, with the info that we have.

    - There's an opening scene (duh). Either has the Dinobots, robots being hunted both or something else
    - Galvatron is being made and the metal that Transformers are made out of is being studied
    - Cade and his family are going to use Optimus's parts to make money
    - Cade discovers Prime is a Transformer and gives him a jolt
    - Optimus sends out a signal: "Calling all Autobots" (which probably freaks the humans out a little)
    - KSI and Lockdown pick up on the signal
    - Galvatron is sent to take down Optimus after the KSI people are shot by the barn, and Tessa's boyfriend pops in for a visit
    - Optimus gets the upper hand, only to be shot by Lockdown
    - Optimus and Tessa are taken by Lockdown into the Nightship, and Cade fails to get Tessa. Meanwhile, Galvatron is pulled away from the scene

    Now these are some of the events which we have not yet been able to fully put chronologically:
    - Optimus (and Tessa) escapes from the Nightship and gets a shiny new upgrade
    - The new Autobots arrive to Earth, and the humans and robots get together again
    - Bumblebee meets Stinger (still in his older Camaro form)
    - Bumblebee gets an upgrade
    - Factory battle
    - Autobots meet the Dinobots
    - Battle in Chicago
    - Confrontation with pack of robotic wolves
    - Optimus on Grimlock, Drift on that other dino
    - Bumblebee on Strafe
    - Cade, Tessa, and the other guy run away from a big explosion
    - The inevitable Bumblebee vs. Stinger fight
    - Optimus gives speech to Autobots and Cade and other humans

    Let the speculation continue.