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Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by dino52, Sep 18, 2011.

  1. dino52

    dino52 Well-Known Member

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    so i was wondering why does hasbro get the cars in the movie if they don't have the license to make a toy like mirage and sideways they could have been a car that they actually have a license on but they make them cars that they dont
     
  2. MV95

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    I think Dino was Bay's fault
     
  3. Wheeljack_Prime

    Wheeljack_Prime Searching for the Infin-Honey Stones

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    Because making a toy with a 100% car mode is secondary to putting a sweet car in the movie?

    No, the Que thing was Bay's fault. Dino was because the Ferrari people are prima donnas.
     
  4. MV95

    MV95 @marlinfan1995 Veteran

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    :lolol 
     
  5. OptimusPrime108

    OptimusPrime108 Autobot Field Commander

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    Actually it was Ferrari's fault. They wanted the car and character to be tailored to their liking which is why Mirage was Dino and Dino had a thick italian accent.
     
  6. decepticon2020

    decepticon2020 Best there is @ what I do

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    I'd say Mirage was not even meant to have an Italian accent. Ferrari probably made it an Italian character and changed his name to Dino. It was like "Bay, if you don't make Mirage how we want him, say good-bye to the car."

    It's actually dumb, because Ferrari would make lots of money if they let Hasbro make a Mirage toy. It's just like the Wreckers. They all come with a Nascar sticker, so why can't a Mirage toy come with a Ferrari sticker? Hasbro and Ferrari could make a deal. For every Mirage toy sold, Ferrari gets 75% of the money.
     
  7. Meggamus

    Meggamus I want FOC figures!!

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    And they would have to make a deal with hot wheels cos their logo is on all Ferrari mechendice
     
  8. MV95

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    Yea and I doubt that Mattel would work with Hasbro
     
  9. Wheeljack_Prime

    Wheeljack_Prime Searching for the Infin-Honey Stones

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    For all the demands that Ferrari made regarding Mirage, (name, the accent, taking away his invisibility, killing Wheeljack instead, etc...) you'd have thought that one of them would have been "Give him more lines!"
     
  10. OptimusPrime108

    OptimusPrime108 Autobot Field Commander

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    :lol  So true!!!
     
  11. OptimusPancake

    OptimusPancake Prime's Breakfest Chef

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    lol that car is sexy. I mean yeah it would of been great to have a toy but it looks so damn good on the screen. The 458 is awesome
     
  12. Shelbo

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    I don't mind the Italian accent, really...

    I'm a sucker for them...
     
  13. Nevermore

    Nevermore It's self-perpetuating a parahumanoidarianised!

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    Because Hasbro's role when it comes to the movies is licking Michael Bay's balls, thanking him for making them an assload of money and producing toys to make even more money.

    Hasbro has close to zero say when it comes to the robot characters in the movie, what they are named, what cars they transform into, what the robots look like and what personalities they have.

    Hasbro can always make suggestions, but Michael Bay can always choose to ignore them.
     
  14. Aernaroth

    Aernaroth <b><font color=blue>I voted for Super_Megatron and Veteran

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    Its also extremely likely that likeness and imaging licensing of a car appearing in a movie is extremely different and separate legally from merchandising licensing, and that the merchandising relationship would have been too complicated, or simply not attractive to one or both parties.
     
  15. Ikkstakk

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    Que is fully licensed, isn't he? I mean, if Soundwave is, why would Que not be?
     
  16. Aernaroth

    Aernaroth <b><font color=blue>I voted for Super_Megatron and Veteran

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    No telling, it could be, as I said, the merchandising license was separate from likeness use, and only covered the model of car Soundwave uses.

    I thought Que was getting toys under the Wheeljack name, though...
     
  17. Ikkstakk

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    I just assumed that, regardless of whatever name his toy is released under, he'll be an accurate replica of a Mercedes E550 since Soundwave is an accurate replica of a Mercedes SLS AMG. Why make the deal for one model but not the other, is my question. But I guess more inexplicable things have happened...
     
  18. Chaos Prime

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    Well don't forget that the Transformers are secondary characters in the movies; why would they have more lines? Sam and Jerry, and Jimmy, and Bimmy, and Doodles, and Larry, and whoever are the stars of the movies. The Autobots are just sidekicks.
     
  19. Aernaroth

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    I'm confused. Both characters are getting toys as their respective cars. Thus, both models seem to have been licensed?
     
  20. HeroicC300

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    They are. If we get a TF4, I hope we get a Mercedes-Benz Actros as either Huffer or Pipes; it's a truck cab, but doesn't compete with Optimus in size.