lets face it the movie story is horrible

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by SSR, Jul 1, 2011.

  1. Soulmaster

    Soulmaster Well-Known Member

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    I cannot agree more with this... if you want WAY more robot development, then you won't get it in live action movies, it would need to be a 100% cgi or animated movie, with many parts as the series, so there wouldn't be each time more and more characters pushed into the story
     
  2. Autobrand

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    Then why are you demeaning yourself by wasting time trashing them on an internet message board? Don't you have more important things to do, like pointing out you don't watch TV because all the programs offered are too bourgeois?
     
  3. mephisto1138

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    Ok, you do realize that's AFTER the money they get for product placement of both cars and daily use products like food, phones, clothes, etc right?

    So take the humans out, you take a TON of product placement out. That's millions of dollars lost.

    And good luck finding a studio to believe in a live action film with almost all robots in it. Even the execs that would love to see this someday wouldn't be able to get enough people together behind it to actually get it made.
     
  4. wowzers

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    haters gonna hate
     
  5. Dr. Prime

    Dr. Prime Dr. Prime

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    May I ask, did you go see DOTM?
     
  6. 03Mach1

    03Mach1 Logic has been replaced with blind ignorance.

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    So Bay and Co. (Spielberg, Hasbro, Jablonski, ILM, etc) have no passion to make this movie? Any proof of this ridiculous claim?
     
  7. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot The Strongest.

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    I'm not any of those stereotypes and I would put my acedemic accomplishments and IQ score up against yours or anyone else's, anytime you want, twice on sunday. And I love these movies.
     
  8. transformervic1

    transformervic1 HI!

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    This.
     
  9. mephisto1138

    mephisto1138 Well-Known Member

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    I agree with this for the most part.

    I think human involvement will always be required. You'll never get all bots, at best you'll get 50/50.

    But spend that 50 percent of bot screen time on QUALITY bot screen time. Show IH shaking SP's hand and SP greeting him warmly as a friend so later on you hate SP even more. As you said, scenes of BB and Wheeljack interacting, maybe even throw Lennox in there, let them all bond together, which would better set up the Hey here's some cool weapons scene later on so it doesn't feel like a cheap video game.

    The thing required for a quality TF movie that would appease everyone is having filmmakers that are really good with economic story telling. There are film makers out there that can give you an hour and a half film and you feel fulfilled. There are film makers who take 3 hours to get you fulfilled. Neither is right or wrong. What is wrong is an hour and a half or three hours or whatever length spent poorly.

    If you can mix the scenes up, don't waste any time on anything NOT relevant to character or plot. Jokes are fine if they advance character or plot. Dark Knight was fantastic at this, that was the driving force behind why that movie worked. Nolan knows how to make a two minute scene stick in the audiences mind. And in TF, sure you can't spend an hour showing the history of cybertron or how IH and OP go way back blah blah blah. But you can have scenes set now that engage these characters and SHOW their bond, so without being told, you understand their connection.

    It all comes down to balance. Balance the humans and bots, balance the character development and action, balance the set up and pay off (so you dont get a 20 second end fight like OP vs Fallen). A solid film maker could stick to the studio bs required to get these made and still make a good product.

    So even though as entertainment and eye candy, I enjoy these films, the moments I do connect with I love a lot, but the great TF film we want could still be made, as long as everyone is realistic that its not whether or not the movie is 90 percent bots or not, but that the scenes with bots are better spent. Even bots with humans, we didn't really get much bots and humans bonding other than Sam and BB. Economic storytelling, that's the key, budget your time, make every scene hit home, land every punch, just like any boxing match, and you get that knockout film that works for almost everyone like DK.
     
  10. transtrekkie

    transtrekkie On the level.

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    Beast Machines. All Hail Megatron. IDW's ongoing. If there's one thing the fandom has proved it's that the fandom doesn't like real ideas getting into the fiction.
     
  11. jntjr2005

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    I agree 100%, there is WAYYY too much human crap going on, maybe if it was like 65%-75% robots and the rest human id be ok, but like TC said, its 90% human, I mean Megatron had like what 1 min of showtime in this movie?
     
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    That did piss me off. I was telling my gf on the way out that Megs looked like some washed up hobo when Carly found him. I'm like THAT's supposed to be intimidating? That didn't make me afraid of the great Lord Megatron, it made me want to give him my loose change and a smile.
     
  13. B'Bantor

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    Oh, I wouldn't know what programs are being offered as I don't own a television. I'm sure they're all real classy though like that one about the NJ guidos.

    That, and you may have been reading what I post here & there but I have absolutely no clue who you are man of 63 posts.
     
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    einis Want some candy?

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    THIS!!!
     
  16. doworkson123

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    i thought the story was fine. wasnt amazed with it or anything, but it was alright. as for the movie itself, i loved it.
     
  17. Goldlock

    Goldlock and don't call me Shirley

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    Yeah, so let's have a movie with 90-100% robots...which would flop monumentally from day 1...which would push the household-name Transformers back to being for a niche fanbase (ourselves)...which would drive down Hasbro profit...which would lessen the brand...which would remove reason for Hasbro to produce large amounts of Classics-esque figures, while still making money off a mainline...which would cause RAGE! in the fanbase...which would then lose some interest. Yes this is exaggerated, worst case stuff, but you get the idea.

    Come on guys; let's do this & put back Transformers popularity by 10 years! Who's with me?! :rolleyes2 
     
  18. RzaSharp

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    I never said take the humans out. I would just want a director that has a sense of balance and doesnt spend most of the screentime focusing on unrelated nonsense.
     
  19. nametaken

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    why can't you make a good movie with 90 or 100% robots? didn't hear anyone suggest making a purposefully bad movie.

    people suggested giving the robots more character which if done, would lessen the need for humans. i cant find anything particular bad about that.
     
  20. RzaSharp

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    So According to you, Shia,whatever chick,Josh Duhammel, and tyrese are what make these movies.