Legacy United Leader Class Tigerhawk

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  1. lethoma

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    Oh man, almost great but a few really annoying bits that hold them back in my opinion (I'm going to call Tigerhawk them since fusion or whatever)

    Front view: image_2023-12-07_184537158.png

    Back view:
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    Visually, Tigerhawk looks great besides from the gappage in the wings and cannons. I'll let the images do the talking instead of yapping too much.

    Accessories:
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    2x back cannons (can be handheld, plugs into gatling end via 5mm), arm cannon, and 2x feather "swords" (mirrored for each side)

    Articulation:
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    Head moves side to side, down a bit and some more with the help of a hinge by the base of the neck. (no looking up on the flying character...)
    Shoulders go out horizontal though the left arm can go just a little more due to the transformation hinge inside the torso (right side has it too but it's blocked). Can swing all the way around if you move the wings out of the way.
    Arms has your bicep rotation and single hinge elbows that go bit over 90 degree. (no wrist movement on the sword wielding character...)
    Back has two hinges, one by the base and another connecting the turbines to the guns for all the flapping you need, wings fold all the way up and down via the turbine area.
    Waist swivel, front skirt lifts up and hips allow for full splits and legs kick out and back over 90 degrees. Thigh swivel and knees that bend 45 degrees forward (mostly for beast mode) and back over 90 degrees, however doing so breaks the sculpt. Ankles pivot inwards 90 degrees, heels fold in and out but they're so small he tends to fall over if you don't stand they carefully due to how back heavy they are.

    As for the outward shoulder movement you need to open up flaps to do so which is fine on the right arm but really tight on the left. Not to mention the arm joint is so much tighter than the transformation joint, leading to this when you try and move the shoulders back inwards:
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    Size comparisons:
    I'll just do these guys since I'm lazy.
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    Transformation:
    I'm too lazy to record it so have the instruction sheet.
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    Transformation is pretty interesting imo but the pistons inside the legs like to pop off the connection with 0 resistance if you push them too far. There's plenty of tabs for everything in both modes so there isn't anything that kinda just hangs there.

    Beast mode:

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    I'm sure we all know how it looks, and if you like it or not, but images are there if needed with some extra angles.

    Beast articulation:
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    Probably the most articulated beast mode yet.
    Head moves down to look all the way down, though this exposes a gap, mouth opens all the way.
    Forelegs retain robot articulation which is great, though with new feet that rotate 360 via mushroom peg as well as bending down on a hinge.
    Hind legs are on a ball joint at the base with a cut so they can go outwards, with the rest of the leg being a series of hinges.
    Wings and skirt flap retain robot articulation. If I forgot to mention, the gatling guns flip out to become large cannons.

    Final verdict:
    This is my first review, so I'm sorry if it's not in a format people like, but Tigerhawk is well... fine. They check most of the boxes and exceeds many but falls short with the arms. I don't know what Hasbro has against functional shoulders and wrist swivels on leaders. Still one of the better legacy leaders and a worthy pick up for BW fans.

    Edit: If people want other images let me know but honestly the designer instagram ones and stock images are plenty, this post was more about articulation and all that.

    Edit 2: Regarding the shoulder, unscrewing it by 1 full rotation fixed it being so goddamn tight in comparison to the transformation joint. I feel dumb for not doing this earlier but I think yesterday I mistook it for a pinned joint. Anyways here's a TON more photos of Tigerhawk with size comparisons against the entire BW S1 cast + Lio Convoy in their WfCT-Legacy glory. Beast mode I got lazy so uh have TM2 Megs and Big Convoy. Additionally with articulation his waist twist is there but gets impeded by the torso pin assembly. The skirt being connected to the stomach rather than the waist isn't ideal and might be the thing that bugs people.

    I'd rate him 8/10. A really solid figure but a lack of wrists, janky proportions, and the skirt flap being more intrusive than usual brings him down. Absolutely no complaints with sculpting, the beast mode, or paintwork. I said I was returning him last night but I've now changed my mind.

    Robot mode gallery:
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    Beast mode gallery:
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    Size comparisons round 2:
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  2. Rakzo

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    Not as big as I expected but looks fine overall.

    Shame about lack of wrist swivels, hopefully DNA Designs comes with an upgrade set for that.
     
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    Two questions:
    1. Can you show him wielding the guns?
    2. Do the wrists tilt forward at all or for transformation? Just asking this one to see if he can at least hold a sword properly.
     
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  4. lethoma

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    No as I've already repacked him for return however @markclonus has some good shots
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    Only if you open the flap under the arm used to stow them away to "cheat it" but it looks even worse than say, year 1 armada starscream who could sorta pull it off. The flap just sticks out way too much to me.
     
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    Thanks for that!
     
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    Looks like a Beast Wars version of Thunderwing
     
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    I know he is Leader class but damn he is BIG

    Like, I didn't expect to almost stand eye to eye to Dragon Megatron.
     
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    MY BIG BEAUTIFUL BOI

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    Here it is but I’m returning it to the store” is not exactly the glowing review I was hoping this one would earn
     
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    I need to see a stop motion of Kingdom Airrazor and Tigatron doing the fusion dance into this guy STAT!!
     
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    Great review.

    if you have the figure, how does he look with potp optimal Optimus?

    my thoughts exactly!
     
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  13. lethoma

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    Robot mode is just okay due to lack of wrist movement and that horrible left shoulder, and I don't exactly have the space for the beast mode as much as I like that. Not bad, but doesn't "wow!" me. There's someone out there who'd love them a lot more than I will.
     
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    I don’t think you can just do a review on a new figure, then just return it to store.
     
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  15. lethoma

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    Well they aren't bad, but with leaders retailing for 65 USD here, any of them I buy I want either on sale or to wow me so hard I'm willing to pay that price (Grimlock, VNR, Galvatron and the two Beast Megatrons go here). I was really hyped for United and jumping in with overly high expectations, but Tigerhawk and Bumblebee (mostly bee) have had me rethinking if I want TFA Optimus still. I'd rate Tigerhawk a solid 7.5/10.

    Unfortunately, I took a break from late TR to mid Kingdom so I can't really make that happen.
     
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    "I don't actually want the figure I just wanted to be first."
     
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    I don\'t regret not getting this guy tbh, I know it\'s impossible to not get a lot of kibble for a guy like this he just doesn\'t look way too interesting to me, would get during a sale for it cause he\'s just one of those \"I\'ll buy when it\'s on sale\"
     
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    Great looking figure! My one gripe is I wish the skirt piece would be under the waist swivel so it doesn't look like a wardrobe malfuction in certain running\martial arts poses, but overall I really dig what I see.
     
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  19. lethoma

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    I will admit that was partially the reason I jumped on Tigerhawk at full price, but Tigerhawk, TFA Optimus and Bee were the 3 figures I had planned to buy from this wave to begin with. I should elaborate I'm planning to exchange it for the other copy that was available in hopes the piston on Tigerhawk's left leg doesn't pop off at the slightest touch and a left shoulder that tabs in more securely. It'd be nice not having words put in my mouth though.
     
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    I cannot wait for whenever they do Razorclaw. Gonna be pretty and the version I get.
     
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