Kotaku - L4D Sequel Met with Much More than Indifference - Valve

These people are nothing but spoiled brats.

 

Jeez, if you don't want it, don't fucking buy it. Don't try to ruin it for the rest of the fans who are actually looking foward to the sequel.

I hate dumb boycott petitions.

 

In before support.

 

I...don't know...I kinda agree with some of the points in this argument. Look at the sheer amount of content and support Team Fortress 2 has and is STILL being given. How would feel if all the update content was released with redesigned models of the classes of TF2 and it was called Team Fortress 3. I mean TF2 wasn't even sold by itself at first, as it was first bundled in the Orange Box. However, Left4Dead started at 60 bucks I believe and was sold separately from the go. Promises were made from the development team working on the game, and it's a bit of a betrayal for them announce NEW CONTENT for a new standalone game. A lot of people feel like L4D is a beta now, considering L4D2 looks like the same game except more polished.

 

L4D is still going to be getting free dlc. I'm sorry, but not getting as much free stuff as you originally thought you were is not a valid complaint.

 

All Valve DLC to my knowledge has been free for any title. I do think it's a valid complaint when a game that has come out just this past November and having a sequel within a year that isn't a huge change If ANYTHING L4D2 should be an expansion pack but not a whole new game. So far, L4D2 doesn't present anything NEW that couldn't have been a FREE DOWNLOAD as DLC for the original title. The issue is a matter of money, spending full price for an incomplete game then expected to pay FULL PRICE AGAIN for a finished game is absolutely ridiculous.

 

You sir, have just made my day.

 

This is what happens when the game sells better on the 360 than it does on the PC.

 

I also want to add the fact that L4D will be essentially discontinued for support by Valve once this new game drops, thus trying to force the hands of people wanting new content. While the servers might continue to be available, most people will feel like they are having their hands twisted behind their back to get something new. Also, inb4 pirate it.

 

Melee weapons, new special infected, maps the occur during the day, a new AI Director program, etc, etc, etc.

 

They've stated, over and over, that they will continue to support L4D with new stuff and the SDK is in beta.

 

Melee weapons could be incorporated just by incorporating it as additional items/weapons like Team Fortress 2 does. New special infected could be incoporated just by dropping the characters into the maps via an update. Sure, they wouldn't be making the most of those new special infected since the maps weren't designed for them. Maps that occur during the day is just a damn lighting change, it's not a HUGE CHANGE. A new AI Director would be adapting/updating the current system.

 

L4D2 Boycott - Our Manifesto

"This manifesto was created by user "afternine" with slight modification by the L4D2 boycott staff. It has since been sent to Valve staff:

We Recognize:

-Valve is a company with financial needs and cannot be expected to survive without the release of new games.

-Judgment cannot be passed on the quality of Left 4 Dead 2 until its release.

-Left 4 Dead was, and is, a quality game which deserves the praise of the entire gaming community.

We Are Committed:

-To holding Valve to its promise of free, continual updates to Left 4 Dead in order to build and sustain the community.

-To keeping the Left 4 Dead community together in order to improve the quality of online gaming.

-To supporting the model of continual updates Valve has set forth with its staple products like Team Fortress 2.

We Believe:

-The release of Left 4 Dead 2 as a stand-alone sequel will split the communities and decrease the quality of multiplayer gaming.

-The announced content of Left 4 Dead 2 does not warrant a stand-alone, full-priced sequel and should instead become updates (free or otherwise) for Left 4 Dead.

-Left 4 Dead has not yet received the support and content which Valve has repeatedly stated will be delivered.

-The release of Left 4 Dead 2 will make Left 4 Dead an obsolete purchase and inferior piece of software after only one year since release.

We Request:

-That Valve honor its commitment to release ongoing periodic content for Left 4 Dead.

-That Left 4 Dead 2 not be released as a stand-alone, full-priced sequel but as either a free update to Left 4 Dead or an expansion with full compatibility with basic Left 4 Dead owners.

-That Left 4 Dead owners be given discounts for Left 4 Dead 2, should it be released as premium content.

Therefore, we - the members of this Left 4 Dead 2 Boycott - promise to abstain from the purchase of Left 4 Dead 2 until our requests are addressed."

 

Hahahahahahaha!

 

Really Gryph, that's the most intelligent response you can come up with?

 

I wasn't trying to be intelligent. I found it quite hilarious.

 

This is partially the 360's fault.

Why do you think the TF2 updates STILL haven't been delivered to the console?

 

Bitch some more folks. Heaven forbid a video game company makes a sequel to a popular video game and, dear heavens, actually expects you to pay for it.

"Ohh, we have to spend money on shit? But if used to be free!" You know who else makes this argument? Adults who just moved out of momma's basement.

Here's an idea, instead of bitching about how you have to spend your hard-earned money on something, like you used to back before you bitched about the economy being crap, how about you suck it up, either buy the game or don't, and let me spend my own cash trying to energize Uncle Sam rather than you trying to strip that from me. Keep your petitions, hippies.

 

Left 4 Dead was fun ... but it was never more than half a game to begin with, sold for full price. I'll pass on the sequel until the inevitable Steam sale.

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