Larry DiTillio and Beast Machines?

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  1. Checksources84

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    2000's "Beast Wars Universe" features alleged notes from Larry DiTilio about the Vok.
    It make several key points.
    1: The Vok Nebula is The Source and destination of all Sparks.
    2: The Vok have been guiding Transformer evolution into Maximal and Predacon to create a Bio Mechanical life form who'll protect and help all life.
    3: After the Beast Wars, classified knowledge about the Vok's role during the conflict, has shifted policy against Maximals and Predacons and the proliferation of Beast Modes on Cybertron.

    In essence this is the rough plot of Beast Machines.
    Where The Maximal Elders reverse course on their policy of following The Vok's leading.
    A course correction spawning Vehicons and organic purges?
    Did Larry DiTillio actually pitch Beast Machines's rough idea to Hasbro, which was given over to Marv Wolfman to flesh out?







    "The Vok Nebula is the spiritual layer or astral plane of the galaxy where
    the Vok reside. It is also the true form of the Matrix Dimension, where
    Transformers believe they will return after their death. The Spark, which
    is a Transformer's soul, is born from the Vok. More accurately, the Vok
    themselves break off into small pieces, the good ones going into the
    Matrix, the evil ones going into the Pit. The Swarm, which is the former
    form of the Vok, contained both evil and good consciousnesses. The reason
    that they divide thusly is because the three races that make up the Vok
    have an instinctive desire for individuality and are not naturally a
    combined consciousness. By turning into a single Transformer with
    intelligence, they are able to be an individual once more. After living
    life as a Transformer, the Spark travels through space and returns to the
    Vok Nebula, becoming part of the Vok once more. At that time, due to their
    experiences living as a Transformer, they are changed as though reborn.

    PROTOFORM

    The Vok's plans are greatly reflected in the birth of the Maximals and
    Predacons. In order to make Transformers the ideal mechanical life forms,
    the Vok created protoforms. The G1 Transformers investigated the
    protoforms and understood that they were a new form of Transformers and
    that they awaited birth via the fusion of a robot form and a beast form.
    However, the mechanical planet Cybertron did not have animal life forms,
    and so the only way to activate the protoforms was to bring animals to
    Cybertron or to drop the protoforms themselves on another planet.

    In order to resolve this problem, the G1 Transformers developed stasis
    pods. These made the protoforms activate as fully-functioning robots, and
    furthermore gave the protoform Transformers the function of being
    explorers. This coincided with the Transformers' goals of exploring the
    depths of space. And so a new generation of Cybertronians, the Maximals
    and Predacons, was born!

    In the past, the previous generation of G1 Transformers had sought out
    other races and attempted to befriend them, but their colossal size was
    occasionally a barrier to this. However, the Maximals and Predacons were
    smaller and compact, and thus able to have equal footing with other races.
    Furthermore, with the transformation into biological life forms (which was
    previously impossible), they were better able to interact with other
    races. Thusly, Cybertron was able to fulfill the destiny of being
    protectors and friends of the galaxy (this being the ideal form of a
    mechanical life form, according to the Vok).

    Although this is occasionally a controversial topic, most Transformers do
    not know about the Vok's plan woven into the existence of protoforms.
    However, the important members of the High Council, especially the
    original Optimus Prime, understood the truth: that alien powers were
    involved, and although these aliens were unknown to them, they felt that
    they were working for the greater good and accepted it. However, after
    Beast Wars, this position changed"
     
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    I like what you have written here, but is this more your accumulation and assessment of the different story elements we got or are Are you referring to something directly stated by any of the writing team
     
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    From the book Beast Wars Universe
    https://www.camphortree.net/tf/tidbits/vok.txt
     

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    These were out-of-story notes that wound up having no influence on Beast Wars, much less Beast Machines. Interesting purely as curiosities, but the franchise storylines went in a totally different direction.
     
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    At first I thought you were talking about the IDW profiles books but Beast wars universe……Is a Japanese book which is completely non-canon in reference to anything released by Hasbro or it’s license recipients
     
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    Oh, Larry DiTillio's a writer from Takara's Beast Wars Neo, thanks for clearing that up.
     
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    I’m not sure if you’re joking or got it mixed up with somebody else but I never said Larry DiTillio's a writer from Takara's Beast Wars Neo

    But regardless who who wrote that information and who they ended up working for or originally works for beast wars universe is a Japanese transformers product

    Which means it is just not canon with Hasbros product

    And you’ve got to also keep in mind just because a known writer from a show, even the shows creators, wrote something doesn’t necessarily make a cannon.

    Canon isint determined by who wrote the series but it’s by whether or not what was written was published or aired For public consumption within the continuity controlled by the publisher in question

    Hence it may be very well canon for the Japanese continuity but not others
     
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    You've got to work on your pedantry and the manner in which you misinterpret what you've read.
    I wrote nothing about ideas of "Canon".
    My point was simple, did Larry DiTillio's notes and ideas for Beast Wars season 4, lay the thematic groundwork for Beast Machine's narrative.
    Supernatural guidance from The AllSpark
    Bio Mechanical Evolution
    Resistance from the Cybertronian "Powers That Be"
     
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    I don’t think your suggestion is warranted but I’m too tired to literally be upset by it lol

    Either way you answered my question I was just trying to find out whether or not this was something that had been legitimately written by the writing staff Or was it more your own creation

    Thank you either way