Kiki Layne And Dominque Fishback In Talks To Star In Transformers 7

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by pie125, Apr 6, 2021.

  1. Mojom

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    It'd be nice if a fully-transformer movie was made without humans. But that aside, what DOES that have to do with my argument? I was criticizing the flip-flop of the "further awareness can be spread - isn't going to push an agenda, and what's the harm if it does" context.
     
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    I hope Lorenzo isn't out. He is a good producer.
     
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    Why can't it tie into the core gist of a story?
    Both the leads and the Autobots are in different ways marginalized and oppressed and the leads learn to overcome what they experience in their own lives while the Autobots figure out how to overpower and defeat the cons. Humans and Autobots can learn from each other and grow. It's not that hard to write into the story.
    Transformers has politics built into it. The Decepticons are a fascist regime in most depictions or revolutionaries who went wrong and became violent. Even the bayverse explored its own politics in its prequel comics
    The reason fans are called racists dicks is that they don't think before they speak and end up coming off as racist, while some fans genuinely mean it. Fans are also made to be hypocrites when they call out the twins for being stereotypes but then complain about the casting choice because the actor/actress happens to be a POC and then claim the producers and directors are trying to be woke.
    I shouldn't have used racist dick, but it was the way it came across that comes off as racist.



    I didn't really imply that you're a racist yourself, I just said that it makes you seem like it. I admit I shouldn't have said "racist dick" and for that, I apologize, but the issue came in the way it came across.
    And you're right, people can make more impactful movies about these issues, but when placed into a movie that loads of people will see it can still help
     
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    Let's also not ignore the idea that they won't even discuss race at all, and the leads are playing who they are, normal people.
     
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    We are getting one of those with the Cybertron film that's in production.
     
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    what flip flop lol
    if they don't put it in a story it doesn't push an agenda
    further awareness can be spread if it's included in the story
    and it doesn't do any harm if it is put into a film, not to any of us at least. Can't speak for you.
     
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    This is pretty much the point I was making. I hate when messages are shoved down your throat, but in this sort of movie, just play characters. Make them interesting or not annoying and I won't give a shit who the actors are.

    (I really really hope these 2 are interesting characters, especially now that lorenzo has been taken out)
     
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    Hey Lorenzo, is that you?
     
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    Octo was just being blunt, not racist. Nevertheless, appreciate it.

    Sure, and it should be kept that way: Normal people. I loved the lead actors in Bumblebee. What you wrote can be applied in Bumblebee, and not once did it involve human politics beyond some passing lip service to the Cold War.

    Charlie got "marginalized and oppressed" by bullies, and got back by trashing the queen bee's car with Bee's help, trashing Fracture's comms signal with her mechanics skill and coming to peace with her father's passing.
    Bee got repaired by Charlie, then had his memory and his fighting skills restored in time to fight against the two cons, while proving to Burns how he was never an enemy (Shatter and Dropkick being sketchy as hell helped).
    None of what they (Charlie specifically) went through had to involve racism nor sexism.
     
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    Yeah I tend to be pretty blunt with things.
     
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    Yes, it's not my fault Bayformers was bad.
     
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    My takeaway from all of this: Seriously, who is this? All these actor names, but I watch so little movies I do not know who these people are nor do I really care until after they've made a Transformers appearance (Though I still will likely never remember them after unless you've got staying power like Hailee Steinfeld and John Cena)
     
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    Underground the tv show? If it was the tv show that show was awesome, I loved that show, it was doing good and got the axe for no reason.
     
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    I’d like a Fishback sandwich with fries and a drink. Can I get that to go?
     
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    Close relative of Finback.

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    Are you joking or no? curious
     
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    Alright alright, back on topic before a mod has to clean it up for the second time.

    This includes those of you trigger-happy with the word 'racist', all you're doing is instigating conflict by doing that. If someone says something you consider to be questionable or in violation of the rules, report them and move on with your day, don't contribute to the problem by using this forum as your personal call-out post, all you're doing is making the mess bigger.

    If you think someone is baiting, report or ignore them, don't take the bait.
     
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    This is GREAT news!

    P.S. I have no idea who she is.
     
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    At least this means the movie's being worked on, so that's definitely exciting.

    Personally I try to not let an actor or actresses relatively unknown or 'new' status turn me off from giving them a chance, because maybe this movie could be their big break. Or maybe I'm being naïve, I dunno. :lolol 

    They could totally wiff these roles as well, that's also possible but I'd rather lean on the side of optimism until given a reason to be more skeptical.
     
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    Neutral ultimately until I actually see the movie.
    Chances are it will be so so, but I enjoyed BB very much so if it does at least as good, I'll be satisfied.
    Don't care about politics. If it comes my way, I'm going the other way. Actors just need to do a good job acting. Nothing else is necessary or welcome.
     
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