Iron Factory Grimlock Kit IF EX-01 Pics/Review/Comparison with ZF kit.

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  1. amd098

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    First, thanks to DubK toys for this set. You rock!
    DubK toys here https://www.facebook.com/DubKtoys

    Words cannot do justice to this figure.

    Attaches simply. You can't use it with the Zenith Forge kit, as they both use the same connector at the top.

    I didn't try the 'g1 mode' with the dino hands as then you lose the 5mm holes in the wings.

    Ignore the scratches in the 'wings' of robot mode [over his left shoulder]. I started sanding it down to paint but then realized I should do the comparison review first.


    Pros:

    It [like the ZF kit] also fixes the issue of the shoulders rotating in and out. Very nice!

    The gun is nice, but gray. I'd prefer it in black, going to paint my kits [1x g1 colors, 2x g2 colors]. I prefer it to the ArtTek gun simply because the barrels are closer together like a real gun. But the ArtTek has a very nice color to it, so if you're not going to paint it, the ArtTek gun has the more accurate coloration out of the box.

    G1 style wings and bulk! Yay!



    Cons

    Gun is a little loose in hand, but I fixed that with future polish.

    Also the light up feature in robot mode is gone. The dino mouth won't open. EDIT: Might just be my set, as others can still use the light up chest. You just pull the head out a little more and it will work.



    Now for pics!

    Box, front and back. Meh.
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    From the front. He gets his bulk, and it looks more G1
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    Top view, not too distracting, works well with the shape.
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    Back view, you can see it fits in nicely and it holds the arms in place.
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    Dino side view. Fills in the chest, but also gives it more of a shape that is G1 style. Very nice!
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    On to the ZF comparison. I apologize that I don't have another regular FoC Grimlock to compare it to. My other is a G1 style grimlock [darker gray] and then I have a G2 grim in the works. This custom is from the FrenzyRumble custom class. Also the ZF kit is also custom painted, sorry.


    Front view. You can see the wings are the difference.
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    Back view. You can see the IF kit is nicer in how it fills in the hole, and the dino head doesn't need to just hang there. Both fix the shoulders from flopping around, but the IF one does it better. It still is easy to put the arms back in for when you tf it into dino mode.
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    Back view of the connection points. The ZF kit uses the screw-hole and the top area, whereas the IF only uses the top. That's why you can only use one of the two kits, at least to fill the back.
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    And this is how it looks from underneath. You can see how much more the IF kit fills in.
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    Aaand finally side view. You can't really tell much of the ZF kit from the side, but you can notice the IF kit right away.
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    So here is the question, ZF or IF? If you just want a chest filler, IF hands down. It does a better job and makes it look more G1. It also gives you a G1 gun. It looks better in both dino and robot mode. However, the other parts of the ZF kit are great. The sword, shield, and head especially are amazing, though the head breaks easily. The ZF filler leaves a bit to be desired though sadly. Put it this way, Zenith Forge = FoC Grimlock, as FoC Grimlock doesn't have the wings. Iron Factory = G1 Grimlock. So pick which one you want it to be closer to. Price wise, the IF set is cheaper.

    That's all folks! Questions/Comments welcome!
     
  2. AmonDemon112

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    Great review! And thanks for showing it with Platinum version! Looks great
     
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    Glad I went with IF.
     
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    looks good :) 
     
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    Nicely done! Glad I picked up both and the Artek head too. A few added paint apps and some mix and match and my Hasbro Grimlock will be pretty set. Thanks for the review.
     
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    You didn't use the ZF head? That and the weapons are my favorite part
     
  7. amd098

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    the weapons are my foc grimlock, the head is on my g1 grimlock. the IF kit is getting painted and will be done in a few hours and it'll be in radicons.
     
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    I already have the ZF set but this looks good! I wonder how well it will match up up with Takara's grimlock
     
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    What gets in the way of lighting up the head? Not sure I understand.
     
  10. amd098

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    In robot mode, the chest can't light up. That's because there is no room for the dino mouth to open when you pull that lever on his head back.
     
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    Ah ok! As long as it's there in dino mode, I'm happy! :) 
     
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    Oh in dino mode it works fine :) 
     
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    If you pull the head out a little, there's enough clearance to activate the light. The trade-off is then it's slightly mis-transformed and the head is visible.
     
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    Got mine yesterday and I have no problem lighting up the chest in robot mode. The dino mouth doesn't have to open in robot mode to light up. Really happy with this set (although I don't use the guns), this is how the toy should have been right from the start.
     
  15. amd098

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    Aight I'll revise the con of the chest not lighting up, seems to be just mine. Thanks guys!
     
  16. Warpshard

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    Um, does the kit work transformation-wise when attached to the ball-joints the arms are mounted on? I'm considering getting this, and I'd like to see the 'G1' T-Rex mode.
     
  17. amd098

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    Don't think so, you have to remove the wings and then pop them onto the dino arm ball joints, you can't transform it. You'd have to put the wings back onto their original balljoints and then tf it.

    g1 mode on right, normal mode on left


    note that the original wing arm assembly has no where to go in g1 mode. however there isn't much of a difference between normal mode, and g1 mode when you look at it from the side or front.
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    and then for alt mode, it wont close up properly for g1 mode
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    What I like about the IF set is that the wing configuration is pretty much customizable. You can tuck it away so its not really visible from the front if you want.
     
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    excellent kit, it complete the figure nicely, well done Iron factory
    the only downside is that the gun is a little loose in hand, easily fixed with some drops of coating, if you got Grimlock, this is the best add-on you could get for the figure itself
     
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    Okay, thanks for letting me know. I'm a bit disappointed about that, but I can just pop them off and on the ball joints. I just hope that doesn't mess them up.